What you’re about to hear is a conversation between writer Verônika Shülman and myself, recorded last week at a party! In honor of the release of my new zine, Pivot, I hosted a party at NOTO and invited all of my friends. It was so nice to be in the same room with everyone after being stuck inside for most of the summer with a broken leg—in that time I had put together this zine, which is about the lessons I learned in the last decade and how I learned them.

My friend and neighbor Verônika hosts this episode. She begins by reading from a book we both love (I Love Dick by Chris Kraus), then reads a bit that she liked from Pivot, and asks me to read an essay from it—which I do. My friends Maddie and Dexter also ask questions and we talk about more writers we love. If you want a copy of Pivot, below is how to get yourself a hard copy.

Show notes:

- Find Verônika on Instagram

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack

- PIVOT zine: sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy 

- My book on journaling | WRITE kit

- Check out NOTO! 

If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:

Episode 458: Introducing PIVOT with Simi Botic

Episode 423: I Can't Believe I'm Still Doing This...10 Years! With Sacha Jones