Married at First Sight star Ella Morgan sits down alongside her dad Chris for an emotional conversation about identity, acceptance and resilience.

Ella opens up about knowing she was different as a child, the challenges of transitioning, the heartbreaking moments of self-doubt and how her relationships on MAFS and Celebs Go Dating shaped her journey.

She and Chris reflect on their struggles to understand each other, the moments that nearly broke their family, and the unconditional love that brought them back together. Chris speaks candidly about his struggles in coming to terms with Ella’s transition to being her biggest supporter.

Together, they address the misconceptions surrounding trans identities, the harsh realities of discrimination, and the power of unconditional love.

A powerful conversation every parent and child needs to hear.

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(0:00) Intro  

(1:27) Ella Being a Trans 'Advocate' Not an Activist  

(3:41) Ella Explains 'Dead-Naming'  

(6:14) Why Did Ella Go on MAFS?  

(9:53) Ella's Relationship History Before MAFS  

(12:07) Safety as a Trans Person  

(14:40) What Were Ella's Lessons from MAFS?  

(20:18) Ella's 'Ill-Advised' Relationship on Celebs Go Dating  

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(25:18) Ella's Reaction to Three-Year-Old Evan  

(27:54) What Was Ella's Childhood Like?  

(30:10) Ella's Experience at School  

(31:54) Societal Scripts Around Gender  

(33:44) When and How Ella Realised She Was Trans  

(36:51) Ella's Experience of Bulimia  

(43:52) Ella's Experience of Suicide at 16  

(50:01) Ella Coming Out as Trans to Her Mum  

(54:04) Ella First Presenting as a Woman  

(55:44) How the Rest of Ella's Family Found Out Her True Identity  

(57:34) Ella's Dad Joins the Conversation  

(58:59) How Did Chris Find Out About Ella's True Identity?  

(1:00:53) How Did Chris Feel When He First Found Out About Ella?  

(1:02:56) Paul Shows Chris a Picture of Him and Ella from 2001  

(1:04:43) What Were Chris' Hopes and Dreams for Ella as a Child?  

(1:06:25) How Chris Dealt with Changing Terminology After Finding Out  

(1:09:10) When Did Chris Realise Ella's Identity Wasn't Just a Phase?  

(1:11:02) Public Reaction to Ella Presenting as a Woman  

(1:12:49) Ella's Experience of Gender Reassignment Surgery  

(1:15:27) Chris' Experience of Ella's Transition Surgery  

(1:17:13) Stats on Suicide in Transgender People  

(1:17:57) Ella's Second Experience with Suicide  

(1:19:42) How Did Chris Deal with Ella's Suicide Attempt?  

(1:21:35) How to Hold Space for Someone in Crisis  

(1:22:29) What Is the 'Work' for Families During a Transition?  

(1:25:29) Support for Parents of Transgender People  

(1:27:23) What Ella's Transition Means to Chris  

(1:29:26) Paul and Chris' Experience of Transphobia Among Friends  

(1:31:02) Why Ella Is the Bravest Person Chris Knows  

(1:34:02) Chris' Advice to Parents of Transgender Children  

(1:34:43) Ella's Procedures and the Costs  

(1:38:23) Statistics on Transgender Employment Rates  

(1:39:40) Most Memorable Conversation  

(1:43:19) Paul's Takeaways 

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In this episode of We Need To Talk, Jordan Stephens opens up like never before. The musician, writer, and actor shares the untold story behind his rise to fame with Rizzle Kicks, the struggles that nearly broke him, and the pivotal moments that shaped his life.

Jordan reflects on his battles with addiction, the weight of fame, and the personal challenges he’s faced behind closed doors. For the first time, Jordan reflects on a period where he felt his lowest and how a phone call with his mum brought him back from the edge. 

Now, in a high-profile relationship with Jade Thirlwall, Jordan opens up about how they navigate their relationship in the spotlight, and whether marriage and fatherhood are on the cards.

Paul and Jordan have a powerful conversation around masculinity, exploring the struggles men face with emotions, intimacy, and societal pressures.

This is Jordan Stephens as you’ve never seen him before.

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(01:36) Influence of Jordan’s Mum and Dad on His Upbringing

(02:53) When Did Jordan Realise His Parents Were Anti-Establishment?

(04:24) Jordan’s Experiences on His Childhood Estate

(06:05) Jordan’s Parents’ Situation When He Was a Child

(07:28) Jordan Moving to Brighton at 10

(08:25) What Did Jordan Think of His Parents Growing Up?

(10:38) Jordan’s Complicated Relationship With Class

(13:37) Jordan’s Experience as a Young Mixed-Race Man in Brighton

(17:25) How Does Jordan Categorise Himself?

(22:01) Jordan’s Early Experiences With Drugs

(26:33) Changing Attitudes Towards Sex

(27:38) The ‘Bizarre’ Story of Jordan Losing His Virginity

(32:48) When Did Jordan Fall in Love With Hip-Hop?

(35:17) The Origins of Rizzle Kicks

(39:08) How Jordan Made ‘Down With the Trumpets’

(43:13) Does Jordan Have Any Regrets About His Music Career?

(48:19) Paul Loves Jordan’s Book ADHD

(49:29) Paul and Jordan’s Thoughts on the State of Masculinity

(54:37) Internalised Homophobia

(58:53) The Kinsey Scale: Understanding Sexuality

(1:00:28) Jordan’s Experience at ‘The Bridge’

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(1:07:34) Jordan’s Experience With Suicide and Suicidal Ideation

(1:16:13) Jordan’s ‘Break-Up’ With His Mother

(1:22:05) Jordan’s ‘Type’

(1:23:33) How Jordan Met JADE

(1:30:26) Jordan’s Thoughts on Polyamory

(1:32:20) Jordan’s Thoughts on the ‘L Word’

(1:34:52) Jordan and JADE's First Date

(1:38:56) Will Jordan and JADE Get Married?

(1:42:06) Jordan’s Thoughts on Fatherhood

(1:47:44) How Jordan Navigates Being in a High-Profile Relationship

(1:54:10) Jordan Praises Paul and WNTT

(1:56:27) Most Memorable Conversation

(2:00:04) Paul’s Takeaways

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In this episode of We Need To Talk, Bre Tiesi opens up about her journey from Vegas clubs to becoming a top luxury realtor and star of Selling Sunset. She shares the real drama behind the cameras, her relationship with Nick Cannon, and the challenges of navigating motherhood in the spotlight.

For the first time, Bre shares the truth about growing up in Calabasas, the impact of her fractured relationship with her mother, and why she filed for emancipation from her parents at 14. She reflects on how these struggles shaped her into the self-made, empowered woman she is today. Bre also talks about her high-profile relationships with Nick Hogan and Johnny Manziel and the impact of the LA wildfires.

Unfiltered, unapologetic - this is Bre Tiesi in her own words.

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(00:01:47) UK vs. US Comparisons

(00:02:49) Growing Up in Los Angeles

(00:03:48) Bre's Family Heritage

(00:05:23) How Bre's Upbringing Shaped Her Identity

(00:06:21) Meeting Her Father for the First Time at 12

(00:09:59) Moving Between Caregivers During Adolescence

(00:12:01) Did Bre Miss Out on a Childhood?

(00:13:05) Paul & Bre’s Views on Marriage

(00:13:44) How Bre Feels About Sharing Her Story

(00:16:33) Bre’s Avoidant Attachment Style

(00:18:18) Emancipating Herself at 13

(00:19:10) Bre's First Relationship With Nick Hogan

(00:20:37) Breaking Into the Modeling Industry

(00:21:22) Her Relationship With Family at 18

(00:24:46) Bre's Early Relationship With Money

(00:25:55) How Her Relationship With Nick Hogan Ended

(00:28:00) Working Bottle Service in Nightclubs

(00:30:33) Bre's Experience With Excess Wealth

(00:32:04) Bre’s Natural Sales Talent

(00:34:56) Bre's Biggest Tip for Success

(00:35:51) Her Decision to Leave the Club Scene

(00:37:13) How Bre’s Mother Shaped Her Persuasion Skills

(00:39:32) Struggles With Self-Image

(00:40:43) Her Marriage to Johnny Manziel

(00:50:01) Divorcing Johnny Manziel

(00:53:38) Stepping Into the Public Eye

(00:56:19) Where Does Bre’s Self-Worth Come From?

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(00:59:11) Starting Her Career in Real Estate

(01:00:24) Gender Disparity in the Real Estate Industry

(01:01:50) Landing Her First Big Listing

(01:03:03) Bre's Relationship With Nick Cannon

(01:06:28) How Their Non-Monogamous Relationship Works

(01:10:34) Has Bre Ever Felt Jealous?

(01:14:31) Polygamy: Changing Attitudes & Statistics

(01:17:18) Pregnancy & Miscarriage Experiences

(01:18:52) Giving Birth & Motherhood

(01:22:29) Bre’s Battle With Postpartum Depression

(01:27:42) How Motherhood Transformed Her Life

(01:29:19) Joining Selling Sunset

(01:30:22) Going Public About Her Relationship With Nick Cannon

(01:33:57) Filming Selling Sunset Six Weeks Postpartum

(01:37:56) Was Bre Targeted on the Show for Her Relationship?

(01:41:27) Her Thoughts on the Public’s Reaction to Her

(01:43:28) Bre’s Vision for the Future

(01:45:41) Surviving the LA Wildfires

(01:49:42) Most Memorable Conversation

(01:51:25) Paul’s Key Takeaways

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In this exclusive episode of We Need To Talk, Faye Winter opens up like never before, revealing the truth behind her Love Island experience, including the infamous argument that shook the villa and the deep emotional toll it took on her life. For the first time, Faye bravely shares the painful truth about her abusive relationship, the betrayal of infidelity, and the relentless online abuse that followed her every move.

This is Faye Winter like you've never seen her before.

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(01:47) Growing Up in Devon

(03:03) Faye's Parents

(07:01) What Did Love Mean to Faye Growing Up?

(10:03) Faye's First Relationships

(11:00) How Did Faye Know Her First Relationship Was 'For Life'?

(13:28) Why Didn't Faye's Boyfriend's Family Approve of Her?

(18:03) The Darker Aspects of Faye's Relationship

(21:28) Paul's Take on Domestic Abuse

(26:51) What Gave Faye the Strength to Leave?

(29:53) Faye's Next Relationship

(34:22) How Did Faye's First Two Toxic Relationships Affect Her?

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(38:13) How Faye Was Scouted for Love Island

(40:01) Faye's Perception of Her Looks vs. the Other Girls on Love Island

(41:59) Faye's Cosmetic Surgery Before Love Island

(44:45) What Was Faye Doing Before Love Island?

(45:52) Why Did Faye Want to Go on Love Island?

(47:33) Faye's Experience on Love Island

(50:52) Faye's Perspective on 'The Argument'

(54:05) Paul's Take on 'The Argument'

(54:55) The Impact of Ofcom Complaints on Faye's Wellbeing

(58:16) The Aftermath of Being on Love Island

(1:03:44) Why Did Her Love Island Relationship End?

(1:08:16) Moving Back to Devon

(1:10:42) Getting Therapy After Love Island

(1:12:21) Online Abuse After Love Island

(1:15:11) Faye's Charity Work

(1:18:33) Influencing as a Career

(1:20:59) Faye's Love Life Post-Love Island

(1:21:55) Faye's Experience of Stalking

(1:28:16) Paul's Take on Stalking

(1:32:55) Faye's Opinion on the World of Cosmetic Surgery

(1:42:08) Statistics Around Cosmetic Surgery

(1:44:30) Most Memorable Conversation

(1:47:07) Paul's Takeaways

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In this episode of We Need To Talk, BRIT-nominated, MOBO award-winning singer Jamelia sits down for a raw and unfiltered conversation, sharing the untold chapters of her life - from rising to fame as a teenage Superstar to the dark realities of the music industry. She opens up about being groomed at 16, surviving an abusive relationship that inspired Thank You, and the relentless scrutiny of the tabloids, who hacked her phone for a decade.

Despite it all, Jamelia has never been happier. She reflects on fame, family, and resilience - how she’s navigated betrayal, heartbreak, and an industry that tried to break her, only to come out stronger. She shares how motherhood saved her, why she’s finally at peace, and the power of owning her story.

This is Jamelia as you've never heard her before - honest, fearless, and thriving.

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(00:00) Intro

(01:54) Growing Up in Handsworth

(03:01) Riots in '81

(04:27) How Would Jamelia Define Rastafarianism?

(10:26) Jamelia Father in Prison

(13:38) How Did Jamelia Father's Consistency Shape Jamelia Relationships?

(18:55) What Would Jamelia Say to Jamelia Father Now?

(22:28) Self-Work and Self-Reflection

(24:58) Forgiving Jamelia Parents

(27:12) Jamelia Mother

(29:32) How Did Jamelia Decide Music Was the Career?

(33:00) Making More Money Than Jamelia Mother

(35:32) Music Career Takes Off

(35:56) Jamelia Brothers Groomed Onto the Streets

(37:33) How Do Jamelia Define Grooming?

(41:42) Did Jamelia Blame Yourself for Jamelia Brother's Conviction?

(44:49) A Mother to Nieces and Nephews

(49:42) Career Regrets, Phone Hacking, and Press Harassment

(56:49) Sexualisation in the Industry

(1:04:10) Code-Switching

(1:07:46) Eating at Nelson Mandela's House

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(1:11:37) Thank You Song

(1:19:27) The Next Relationships

(1:33:00) Second Husband

(01:43:27) Our Children Are Angels

(01:49:44) Getting Back Up After Being Knocked Down

(01:54:36) New Album

(01:56:04) TV Career

(02:08:10) How Amazing Life Is Now

(02:15:15) Self-Actualisation (With a Partner)

(02:18:13) Breaking the Generational Curses

(02:21:20) Where Is Your Dream Partner?

(02:25:02) Flipping Society's Script

(02:31:49) Most Memorable Conversation

(02:35:11) Paul's Takeaways

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“I Should’ve Done Things Differently"

Reality TV star Chloe Ferry opens up about the dark side of fame, body image struggles, and the pressure of online scrutiny in this raw episode of We Need to Talk with Paul Brunson.

From Geordie Shore fame to undergoing multiple surgeries in search of confidence, Chloe shares how she lost herself—and why she’s now embracing self-love and a fresh start.

This episode contains discussions about mental health, body image, and cosmetic surgery, which may be sensitive for some listeners.

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00:00 Intro

01:27 Chloe Leaving Her Comfort Zone

03:10 Growing up in Newcastle

06:51 Chloe's Family Life

11:19 Speaking to Chloe's Inner Child

12:42 Ice Skating as an Outlet

18:33 "Being Scouted for Geordie Shore"

24:43 Chloe's Mindset on Geordie Shore

27:44 The Backlash

34:01 Chloe Lost Who She Was

38:34 Who Chloe Was

41:23 The Surgeries

51:03 External Validation

52:42 A Message from Chloe's Mum

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57:15 Relationships

1:03:17 Chloe, The Businesswoman

1:06:43 Body Dysmorphia

1:12:54 Therapy

1:14:33 Depression

1:16:47 The People in Chloe's Life

1:19:24 Anxiety

1:22:48 Beauty as a Currency

1:31:53 Is Surgery Ever a Good Idea?

1:37:27 More Surgery Plans

1:40:23 Coming Out of The Storm

1:45:36 Most Memorable Conversation

1:48:39 Paul's Takeaways

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In this episode of We Need To Talk, Kelsey Parker opens up about navigating life after the heartbreaking loss of Tom Parker, her husband and a member of the boyband The Wanted. Kelsey shares how she faced grief, public scrutiny, and the challenge of raising their children while keeping Tom’s memory alive. Kelsey also speaks candidly about love after loss, the reality of widowhood, and how she’s embracing a new chapter in her life.

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(01:20) Shopify Ad

(02:59) Where Is Kelsey From?

(04:33) Kelsey's Absent Father

(05:47) Kelsey's Relationship With Her Stepfather

(07:04) Stigma of Blended Families

(09:40) Meeting Tom (From The Wanted)

(14:00) First Date With Tom

(16:47) The Industry Made Us Not Label Our Relationship

(22:16) Starting a Relationship With Tom

(23:38) Getting Engaged to Tom

(24:53) First Few Years of Being With Tom

(26:09) Did Fame Change Tom?

(26:41) How Did Tom Know He Wanted to Get Married?

(28:39) Marrying Tom

(30:15) The Honeymoon With Tom

(31:05) Tom's Protectiveness vs. Kelsey's Dad

(33:59) Running Businesses Together

(35:40) Conversation About Having Children

(37:37) First Symptoms of Tom's Illness

(42:56) Tom's Brain Tumor Diagnosis

(48:05) Managing Life With a Diagnosis

(54:04) Tom's Mindset Through Treatment

(56:37) Going Public With the Diagnosis

(58:46) Tom's Chemotherapy

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(01:02:51) Keeping a Sense of Hope

(01:08:36) Facing Reality and Getting Tom Into a Hospice

(01:14:38) The Last Conversation With Tom

(01:18:40) Focusing on the Children

(01:21:46) Life After Tom

(01:22:37) Feeling Lonely After Tom's Death

(01:24:00) Perception of Widows Who Try to Move On

(01:26:30) How Do Single Men React to a Widow?

(01:29:24) Vulnerability After Loss

(01:30:40) Criticism on Social Media

(01:37:11) Meeting New Partner Will

(01:39:40) Falling Pregnant With Will

(01:41:38) Going Public With Pregnancy

(01:45:24) Reaction of Tom's Family to the Pregnancy Announcement

(01:46:24) Experience as a Blended Family

(01:48:13) Kelsey's Spirituality

(01:54:47) Keeping Tom's Memory Alive

(01:58:22) Celebrating Tom's Life With the Children

(02:00:49) What Is Next for Kelsey?

(02:02:36) Will's Reaction to the Pregnancy

(02:04:08) What Kelsey Wants Everyone to Take Away From Her Experience

(02:04:42) Kelsey's Most Memorable Conversation

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In this episode of We Need To Talk we’re joined by Dr. Julie Smith, a clinical psychologist, best-selling author, and online educator known for making mental health tools accessible to millions. Dive deep into the realities of self-love, how to build secure relationships, and the hidden cost of always trying to "win" in arguments. Dr. Julie shares practical strategies to manage fear, navigate uncertainty, and transform anxiety into a source of strength. 

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(01:43) Dr. Julie's Upbringing

(04:00) Is Shyness Genetic or Learned Behavior?

(06:11) Dr. Julie's Relationship With Her Husband

(10:08) Why Did Dr. Julie Specialize in Clinical Psychology?

(13:02) Dr. Julie's Experience Working for the NHS

(16:55) Dr. Julie's Move Onto Social Media

(23:10) The Success of Dr. Julie's First Book

(24:40) Dr. Julie's Experience Writing Her Second Book Open When

(26:15) Dr. Julie's Cancer Diagnosis

(31:41) Dr. Julie's Thoughts on the Popularity of the Term "Self-Love"

(34:40) What Is Metacognition?

(37:23) Dr. Julie's Definition of Self-Love

(40:17) How Do We Correct Our Self-Destructive Thoughts?

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(45:41) What Is Dr. Julie's Definition of Self-Esteem?

(50:08) How Does Confidence Relate to Self-Esteem?

(54:43) How Should We Handle Criticism in Terms of Our Self-Esteem?

(58:52) Do Our Values Stay the Same or Change Over Time?

(1:00:07) Demonstration of Values

(1:06:33) Are We More Anxious Than Ever in Society?

(1:10:31) How Do We Manage the Anxieties of Modern Society?

(1:14:29) Dr. Julie's Thoughts on Today's "Self-Centered" Society

(1:16:57) How Do You Know if You're Ready for a Relationship?

(1:18:36) Why Do We Need Relationships With Others for Our Happiness?

(1:21:31) Dr. Julie's Tips for a Successful Relationship

(1:24:28) Dr. Julie's Definition of Attachment Styles

(1:28:01) How to Determine Your Attachment Style

(1:29:52) How to Make Your Attachment Style More Secure

(1:31:09) Dr. Julie's Ethos on Conflict in Relationships

(1:35:15) Most Memorable Conversation

(1:39:59) Paul's Takeaways

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"I Proved Them All Wrong - One Direction Were Like Family"

Join us for an inspiring episode as Cher Lloyd delves deep into her journey from a breakout star on X-Factor to overcoming the challenges of media scrutiny and personal transformation. 

At just 16, Cher quickly rose to fame, finishing fourth on the show and charting hits in both the US and UK. Yet, behind the scenes, she faced intense media torment that shaped her public image into something she didn’t recognise. 

In this heartfelt interview, Cher reveals the true self behind the 'villain' persona once painted by the press, sharing insights into the real-life impacts of fame and the media's role in it.

Cher also opens up about her personal growth through motherhood and how it shifted her career trajectory, discussing the industry's cold shoulder during her pregnancy and her decade-long partnership with her husband, Craig. 

After a significant break from music, Cher is back, ready to reclaim her space in the music industry with newfound resilience and empowerment. 

Tune in to hear how Cher Lloyd transforms adversities into a powerful narrative of self-acceptance and determination, proving that stepping back can be a pathway to leaping forward.

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Sections:

00:00 Intro

02:23 How are you feeling?

04:13 Exploring Cher's Childhood

06:48 Impact of Cher's Upbringing on Her Adult Life

09:27 Cher's Life in the Romany Community

15:42 UK Media's Negative Portrayal of the Traveller Community

16:52 The Beginnings of Cher's Singing Career

18:43 Why Cher Decided to Pursue a Pop Career

22:18 Cher's Audition on X-Factor: A Look Back

30:48 Advice Cher Would Give to Her 16-Year-Old Self

32:41 Reality vs. Portrayal: Cher on the X-Factor

37:34 Mental Health Support for Cher During X-Factor

39:38 Inside Cher's Relationships with X-Factor Judges

44:31 Living with Other Artists: Cher's Experience

44:55 Reaction to Liam Payne's Post: A Discussion

48:57 Negative Media Coverage of Cher During X-Factor

51:01 Keep Love Ad

51:57 Tinder Ad

52:48 Cher Performs 'Stay': Reflecting on Her Uncle's Passing

57:08 Paul's Admiration: Wishing He Could Sing Like Cher

57:35 Cher's Career After the X-Factor: What's Next?

58:51 Cher Reflects on 'Swagger Jagger' Years Later

01:01:51 How the UK Media Labeled Cher Post-X-Factor

01:05:22 Examining Sexism in the Music Industry: 2010 vs. Today

01:11:23 Cher's Success in the US: A Detailed Look

01:14:56 Cher Discusses Her Struggle with Belonging in the US

01:19:39 Why Cher Returned to the UK

01:20:10 Does the UK Now Love Cher?

01:20:33 Cher's Future Career Plans Revealed

01:22:29 Cher and Taylor Swift: A Musical Collaboration

01:25:32 Cher Proudly Talks About Being a Great Mom

01:26:25 How Parenthood Changed Cher: Becoming a Better Person

01:28:07 Cher and Her Husband Craig: Their Relationship Story

01:34:08 How Motherhood Transformed Cher

01:36:40 Cher's Battle with Postnatal Depression

01:42:25 Cher's Relationship with Social Media Explored

01:45:02 Finding Empowerment

01:46:32 Cher's Most Memorable Conversation

01:51:04 Paul's Key Takeaways from Cher's Journey

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From her humble beginnings working at Hooters in Canada, to conquering the UK's comedy scene, Katherine Ryan's journey is nothing short of inspiring.

In this candid interview, she opens up about her trials as a single mum breaking into the male-dominated stand-up world, her experiences with toxic relationships and overcoming personal setbacks, including her tragic miscarriages.

Now, reconnected with Bobby, her high school sweetheart, Katherine's story embodies deep resilience, showing us how one can turn life’s challenges into empowering insights.

Please be aware that this episode discusses sensitive topics.

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Sections:

02:16 Differences Between Life In The USA, Canada, And The UK

04:33 Katherine's Childhood And Upbringing In Canada

05:40 Growing Up In Different Communities: Katherine's Experience

07:30 What Katherine Thought About The UK As A Child

09:00 How Katherine Discovered Her Passion For Performing

09:50 What Was Katherine's Childhood Really Like?

11:15 How Katherine Built A Strong Family Bond During Childhood

12:57 Does Experiencing Trauma Make Someone A Better Comedian?

15:45 What Katherine Wanted To Become At Age 12

18:29 The Impact Of Katherine's Parents’ Divorce On Her Life

25:53 Katherine's Early Dating Experiences And Relationships

28:13 Generational Challenges: Alcohol And Violence In Katherine's Family

29:33 The Story Of Katherine's Friendship With Jessica

39:49 Behind The Scenes: Katherine's Job At Hooters

47:47 The Truth About The "Keep Love" Ad Campaign

48:39 What Happened Behind The Scenes Of The Tinder Ad

49:34 How Katherine Started Her Comedy Career At 21

51:31 Why The UK Is Considered The Stand-Up Comedy Capital Of The World

53:06 Challenges Of Starting Out As A Female Comedian In Stand-Up

55:38 Did Katherine Move To The UK For Love Or Her Career?

56:44 Starting Her Comedy Career In The UK: Katherine’s Journey

58:45 Becoming A Young Mother By Choice: Katherine's Story

1:05:10 Katherine's First TV Break With The Show Campus

1:05:51 Balancing Motherhood And A Growing Comedy Career

1:08:09 Paul’s Reaction To Katherine's 2012 Appearance On 8 Out Of 10 Cats

1:09:00 How Katherine Prepares For High-Pressure Panel Shows

1:13:45 Why Stupidity Dominates Modern Politics

1:15:59 Why Are Less Than 20% Of UK Comedians Female?

1:18:21 How Diversity Is Shaping Today’s Stand-Up Comedy Scene

1:24:22 Katherine's Relationships During Her Comedy Career Rise

1:25:40 The Shocking Story Of Child Protection Services Investigating Katherine

1:28:36 Surviving Coercive Control: Katherine’s Personal Experience

1:37:00 Katherine's Life During Her Single Years

1:38:33 Reconnecting With Her Childhood Romance: Bobby’s Story

1:43:56 How Katherine Persuaded Bobby To Move To The UK

1:45:19 Katherine And Paul's Heartbreaking Experience With Miscarriages

1:51:15 Will Katherine And Bobby Have More Kids?

1:53:07 Why Katherine And Bobby Schedule Intimacy In Their Relationship

1:55:19 How Often Do People Really Have Sex?

1:57:08 The Most Memorable Conversation Of Katherine's Life

1:59:01 Key Takeaways From Paul’s Perspective

2:01:18 The Inside Scoop On The Adobe Express Ad Campaign

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