In this episode, DB talks with TammyJo Eckhart, a BDSM activist who's here to dispel some myths about M/s, or Master/slave, relationships -- in the long-term! Don't let the title fool you; just like all BDSM discussed here at Sex Ed with DB, TammyJo talks about how not only can M/s relationships be consensual, but also caring, freeing, and therepeutic for everyone inolved.

Between Us is a new episode format where we speak with folks living through what some of our experts from other episodes have discussed! We're excited to bring you more intimate, one-on-one conversations with real people living their real lives about how sex and sex ed impact them every day.

Guest Details

TammyJo Eckhart has been a BDSM activist, author, and educator since 1989. Her fiction work crosses genres including contemporary, fantasy, historical, horror, and science fiction. Eckhart lives as the head of her poly, omnisexual, and kinky household. Join her on Patreon (https://www.patreon.com/tammyjoeckhart) or check out her website (https://tammyjoeckhart.com/).

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