In this powerful conversation, Emma sits down with Simon Sinek to redefine what leadership actually looks like in today’s world.

Known for shaping how millions think about purpose and influence, Simon goes deeper than theory, challenging the outdated idea that leadership is about authority, titles, or control. Instead, he breaks down why real leadership is rooted in responsibility: the responsibility to help people feel safe, supported, and able to do their best work.

Together, Emma and Simon explore why so many people feel disconnected from their jobs, why traditional leadership models are failing, and what it really means to lead in service of others. Simon reflects on his own journey to finding purpose, the discomfort that came with it, and why clarity—not charisma—is the foundation of trust, loyalty, and lasting success.

This episode is a grounded, honest look at leadership without ego, purpose without performance, and the new rules required to build cultures—and lives—that actually work.

WHAT YOU’LL LEARN:

Why leadership isn’t about being in charge, it’s about taking responsibility for people

How helping people is the true job of a leader

Why so many leaders get it wrong, even with good intentions

What it really means to “find your why” and keep it in balance

The difference between authority and trust

Why great leaders are made, not born

How to lead without burning out yourself or your team

The simple mindset shift that creates loyalty, safety, and long-term success

Why service not power is the foundation of meaningful leadership

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