Lost empathy for yourself? You've already lost the fight. 

This week, Tammy Triolo reveals the shocking connection between self-empathy loss and narcissistic abuse. 

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🔹 Tammy walks you through recognizing when thoughts are just thoughts—not truth—and how to stop surrendering to negative beliefs. 

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TAMMY'S BOOKS 

• The Empathy Gap: It Is Black and White 

• Workbook

MORE ABOUT TAMMY TRIOLO 

Tammy Triolo is a cultural strategist, author, and creator of the Empathy Scorecard. As founder of PCQ Consulting, she works with companies to improve culture and develop sustainable DEI initiatives. 

• Website: tammytriolo.com 

• Social: @tammytriolo on TikTok and Instagram 

• Podcast: The Empathy Lab (Substack)

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