In this episode, Marty and Shura sit down with Erin Deering - who went from building Triangl into a global phenomenon, to an attempted retirement in her 30s. She opens up about what really happens after the exit: the loss of identity, the aimless days, and the drive to feel useful again - and how that journey led to DEERING.

They dive into the politics play she never saw coming, the rituals that keep her grounded, and why work is still the thing that lights her up - not just as a founder, but as a mother of four. Vulnerable, sharp, and unapologetically honest.