The San Francisco meeting between Chinese President Xi Jinping and his US counterpart Joe Biden has concluded. At the meeting’s opening, Xi said the China-US relationship has never been smooth sailing over the past 50 years, yet it has kept moving forward with twists and turns.

How can the relationship develop in a way that not only benefits the two countries but also fulfills a global responsibility? Host Ding Heng is joined by Rong Ying, Vice President of the China Institute of International Studies, and Rick Dunham, former White House reporter of Businessweek and Co-director of Tsinghua University’s Global Business Journalism Program.