This week, Julie and Cathy are talking about something that's easy to undervalue: the perspective you get after years of doing the work. That 30,000-foot view where you can see patterns and connections that someone newer just... can't yet.

If you're a designer or a coach (or thinking about hiring one), this matters more than you probably realize. It shows up in how you make decisions, the advice you give, what you charge. All of it.

They share some stories from their own work and walk through why experience isn't just about having done something a bunch of times. It's about what you can see now that you couldn't before. And how to actually use that, whether you're trying to sell your services without feeling weird about it, or you're trying to figure out who's worth bringing onto your team.

Some useful stuff in here if you've ever wondered whether all those years actually count for something. (They do.)

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