"Christians need to face the truth of who we are." That's what Professor Iwan Russell-Jones told us, and it's why we took a hard look at Hillsong through the FX/Hulu docuseries "The Secrets of Hillsong." In this episode we talk about church as the show and what it is costing us. We also talk about:

• the docuseries as Carl Lentz's redemption vehicle
• the cost of spiritual abuse
• should church be charging money for attendance and paying volunteers?

Full show notes here

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