In this special edition episode, we’re revisiting Michael's conversation with Tim Grover, best-selling author of RELENTLESS and W1NNING, and the performance coach behind some of the most renowned and highly-respected athletes of all time.

Tim has made it his business to understand winning. As a trainer to Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, and countless other professional athletes, Tim has seen firsthand the work ethic necessary to become the best. 

But in those top performers, he also noticed something more than just talent and hard work — he saw a different mindset. Now he uses that knowledge to help people of all stripes achieve sustained excellence, from elite athletes to high-achieving entrepreneurs.

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