The Addicted Mind Podcast

167: The Virtuous Cycle of Healing the Trauma with Serge Prengel


Listen Later

On this episode of The Addicted Mind Podcast, Duane speaks with Serge Prengel, the author of The Proactive Twelve Steps for Mindful Recovery. They dive deep into the process of change and this concept of the virtuous cycle that creates a positive feedback loop in our lives so we can make the strategic change and create a meaningful life that feels good and is purposeful. 

Serge is a therapist who's big on experiential or somatic psychotherapy. He believes that everybody is very different and every situation is very different. Serge talks about how you can be proactive in your approach, and over time, gradually step out of feeling stuck and powerless so you can enjoy a balanced and happy life. 

Serge has had a long-term dialogue with the 12 Steps for the past 30 years, which he discovered through friends who were in recovery. He always admired the power of the 12-step culture, the idea of having a common path, and the community it has created. He admires the system where people can have peer support and they can pull themselves together out of something that would feel like a morass.

That being said, Serge also had a problem with the 12 Step’s concept of reliance on divine intervention or higher power. However, at the same time, he sees that something is working. This led him to a path of going deeper into the dialogue around the 12-Step to get a better understanding of what works. Then he would be able to translate it so other people can understand it better and be able to follow the path more effectively.

In this episode, you will hear:

  • A more generalized concept of healing
  • His definition of trauma
  • Building the tools through practice
  • The importance of group work
  • The inner power instead of the higher power
  • How the felt sense experience functions as a guide
  • The virtuous cycle of trauma healing
  • The power of the mindful pause
  • How the change starts to manifest itself
  • Key Quotes:

    [09:55] - “It's impossible to be a human being, without having had some situations and some experiences, which are beyond their capacity to digest at the time.”

    [11:27] - “In the moment of being confronted with trauma as an individual, you're exactly in the position where you're disempowered, where you are with the least access to your capacities. And so it takes practical tools to actually overcome these kinds of moments.”

    [12:08] - “We're different people when different parts of the nervous system are in gear. And so, you cannot build the tools when you're activated."

    [18:24] - “The inner experience of being saved by God is an inner experience that actually can be also experienced by people who don't believe in God, and that's progressively connecting to that sense of higher power.”

    [24:31] - “Being more connected to ourselves is the healing, and the healing enables us to be more connected to ourselves. This is how we hit that virtuous cycle. And then the vicious cycle is that progressive cycle of disconnection.”

    [25:34] - "When you're in the midst of trauma, you cannot have access to that simplicity. What feels obvious when you're out of it does not feel obvious when you're in it."

    [27:17] - "That mindful pause becomes the DNA of the process because it's something that moment by moment helps you orient but is also something that helps you stay and be progressively more able to accept."

    [32:59] - "Look for kindred spirits who are willing to engage in a process of healing together."

    If you really enjoyed this episode, we’ve created a PDF that has all of the key information for you from the episode. Just go to the episode page at www.theaddictedmind.com to download it.

    Supporting Resources:

    The Proactive Twelve Steps for Mindful Recovery

    Episode Credits

    If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Danny Ozment.

    Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com

    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    ...more
    View all episodesView all episodes
    Download on the App Store

    The Addicted Mind PodcastBy Duane Osterlind, LMFT

    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7
    • 4.7

    4.7

    589 ratings


    More shows like The Addicted Mind Podcast

    View all
    The One You Feed by Eric Zimmer

    The One You Feed

    2,512 Listeners

    That Sober Guy Podcast by Shane Ramer, The Radcast Network

    That Sober Guy Podcast

    480 Listeners

    Recovery Elevator by Paul Churchill

    Recovery Elevator

    1,698 Listeners

    Sober Cast: An (unofficial) Alcoholics Anonymous Podcast AA by AA Podcast

    Sober Cast: An (unofficial) Alcoholics Anonymous Podcast AA

    2,101 Listeners

    This Naked Mind Podcast by Annie Grace

    This Naked Mind Podcast

    2,571 Listeners

    Addiction Unlimited Podcast by Angela Pugh

    Addiction Unlimited Podcast

    491 Listeners

    Soberful by Veronica Valli & Chip Somers

    Soberful

    484 Listeners

    The Hello Someday Podcast For Sober Curious Women by Casey McGuire Davidson

    The Hello Someday Podcast For Sober Curious Women

    687 Listeners

    Alcohol-Free Lifestyle by James Swanwick

    Alcohol-Free Lifestyle

    218 Listeners

    Sober Powered: The Neuroscience of Being Sober by Gillian Tietz, MS, CPRC

    Sober Powered: The Neuroscience of Being Sober

    1,180 Listeners

    How I quit alcohol by Danni Carr

    How I quit alcohol

    182 Listeners

    2 Sober Girls Podcast by Erinn + Michaela

    2 Sober Girls Podcast

    187 Listeners

    Sober Motivation: Sharing Sobriety Stories by Brad McLeod

    Sober Motivation: Sharing Sobriety Stories

    534 Listeners

    Happiest Sober Podcast by Madeline Forrest

    Happiest Sober Podcast

    190 Listeners

    It's Not About the Alcohol by Colleen Kachmann

    It's Not About the Alcohol

    108 Listeners