She's back! Everyone's favourite purveyor of filthy stick figure cartoons is here to talk about playdate shame, managing teens, and what is better: dogs or children? 

Meanwhile, we get an update on Helen's love life - let's talk about socks, baby. Honestly, there's no point trying to summarise it here, you're just going to have to listen in...

And of course we discuss Katie's brilliant new book, The Extremely Embarrassing Life of Lottie Books. It's out now and it's a fantastic read for 9-12 year-olds, or indeed 40-plus year-olds like us who just want something funny to read in the bath. 

SAFETY NOTICE: This podcast was recorded remotely, which is why it sounds a bit different - sorry about that. We're doing our best, and we'll be back to sitting on Ellie's sofa with our guests as soon as it's safe to do so. 

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