There are lots of different routes into the musical theatre world, and this weeks guest proves that if drama school isn't for you, there are other routes to achieve your dreams! Carl Man went from a bar in Soho to roles in Disney's Aladdin, the West End production of &Juliet, Starlight Express (at The Other Palace) and, today, he is your Fiyero in the touring production of Wicked. Along the way, he's performed on cruise ships and truly hustled his way to centre stage.

In this episode of Your 5 Minute Call, Amber and Carl talk about early days at the Archer Street Bar, the unseen roles on stage, navigating the industry without formal training and his journey with Wicked.

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