It's time for some real talk as we sit down with our old friend Steve Hill to discuss our own personal mid-life crises. We dig deep into the big stuff, from death and divorce to weight loss and cock rot. 

Tune in to find out why Helen's divorce has been good for Ellie's marriage, and what Steve Hill does for the only two hours a month when he smiles. Helen talks about losing weight and the complicated feelings around compliments. We discuss why Helen's running the marathon again, and why Ellie isn't, and reveal where Steve buys his jeans. 

You can follow Hill on Instagram @dad_of_lad, and Twitter @hillythefish.

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