What if the toys our kids play with could help shape them into more compassionate, balanced, and open-hearted ?

In this episode, I sit down with Hart & Hero founders—and fellow moms—Chanie Brod and Musya Eckhaus to explore how toys can do so much more than just entertain. We dive into the quiet power of care, the beauty of duality, and how to bridge the gender play gap in a world that too often puts kids in boxes.

From their origin story to the values behind their thoughtfully designed products, Chanie and Musya share how they’re raising both sons and daughters with the freedom to be strong and soft, nurturing and brave. I share a deeply personal parenting moment that challenged my own assumptions about femininity, reflecting on how easily we pass down gendered expectations—sometimes without even realizing it.

We also explore how the roles kids take on in play can shape the roles they default to in adulthood—particularly when it comes to caregiving and the “default parent” dynamic. When nurturing is only encouraged in girls, we miss the chance to raise boys who are emotionally fluent, capable caregivers too.

This conversation is a powerful reminder that play isn’t just play—it’s practice for life.

We cover:

Why care is one of the most radical, under-celebrated strengths

How to support boys in embracing nurturing roles and girls in stepping into leadership—without forcing either

The impact of representation and inclusive toys on identity formation

How duality helps raise whole, resilient humans

How early play patterns can shape future family dynamics

Whether you’re a parent, educator, or just someone who cares about raising the next generation with intention, this episode will leave you inspired to notice the micro moments—and make them count.

Learn more about Hart & Hero at @hartandhero

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