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340. The Risk That Nearly Broke His Firm — Jay Kelley’s $100M Branding Playbook [Encore Edition]


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How can attorneys integrate leadership, strategy, and branding to build a thriving firm?


In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael Mogill sits down with Jay Kelley, managing partner of Elk + Elk, to explore how one of Ohio's largest personal injury firms has evolved and flourished. Jay shares his unconventional journey into law, drawing from an early love of persuasive speaking he discovered through acting, and how this unique background has shaped his approach to becoming a trial attorney.


Here's what you'll learn:

  • How transformative life experiences can shape your practice and lead you to a fulfilling legal career
  • The importance of building a firm culture that is both collaborative and capable of handling serious, complex cases
  • Why strategic brand building and community engagement are crucial for long-term success in the legal industry

  • Law firm leaders who truly want to elevate their impact need to go beyond just winning cases — they need to transform their firms from the inside out. This isn't just about marketing strategies or business development — it’s about embodying authenticity, perseverance, and a relentless commitment to growth.

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    Show Notes: 


    00:00 – Introduction

    02:16 – Jay Kelley's Journey: From Prosecutor to Plaintiff’s Attorney

    05:55 – The Power of Listening in the Courtroom

    07:35 – Finding Purpose in Medical Malpractice Cases

    09:07 – Balancing Being a Trial Attorney and a Law Firm Business Leader

    12:46 – Branding a Law Firm: Standing Out in a Competitive Market

    17:45 – Community Involvement and Brand Recall Strategies

    25:50 – The Difference Between Brand Recall and Credibility

    31:52 – Transitioning a Law Firm’s Leadership and Legacy

    42:56 – What It Means to Be a Game-Changing Attorney


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    Links & Resources:


    The Abbey Theatre

    Arthur M. Elk

    David J. Elk

    Cincinnati Reds

    Columbus Blue Jackets

    Cleveland Browns

    USO

    Dr. Kirk Wakefield

    Siri

    John P. O’Neil


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    Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.


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