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355. How Two Lawyers Took on Legal Giants and Won with Spetsas Buist


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What if launching your law firm amidst competition isn't about having it all figured out, but about taking the plunge with unwavering determination and adaptability?


In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, host Michael Mogill sits down with Charles Buist and Nicholas Spetsas, the formidable duo behind a rapidly growing law firm in Orlando. Join us as we delve into their inspiring journey from shared dreams in a cramped one-bedroom apartment to the strategic decisions that helped them navigate the challenges of launching a firm from scratch.


Here’s what you’ll learn:

  • How taking strategic risks early in your career can pave the way for future success
  • The critical role of a client-centric approach in differentiating a law firm, ensuring lasting relationships and trust by prioritizing client needs and maintaining excellent service
  • The impact of leveraging advanced technology and personalized leadership strategies, like AI, Kolbe, and PRINT assessments, to foster team growth and enhance operational efficiency in a thriving law firm

  • Tune in as they unpack their evolution from law school allies to entrepreneurial partners, revealing the bold bets, unrelenting commitment, and client-first mindset that drove their explosive growth from day one. With an emphasis on emotional connection, tech-forward operations, and agile leadership, Charles and Nick’s story is packed with battle-tested strategies and hard-earned insights for any law firm looking to stand out — and win — in today’s hyper-competitive market.


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    Show Notes:

    00:00 – Introduction

    03:11 – From Law School Roommates to Law Firm Founders

    06:19 – Building the Firm During Uncertainty and Sleepless Nights

    11:45 – The Turning Point: A Case That Changed Everything

    14:31 – Competing in One of the Nation’s Toughest Legal Markets

    18:34 – Team Composition, Growth Strategy, and Embracing AI

    23:37 – Leadership Lessons: Individual Focus and Effective Communication

    27:55 – Defining Firm Culture: Excellence, Empathy & Evolution

    42:08 – Personal Growth, Client Experience & What’s Next


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    Links & Resources:

    Charles Buist

    Nicholas Spetsas

    Mark Cuban

    Lior Weinstein

    Chris Voss

    The Bachelorette


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    Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.


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