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394. How to Grow Without Losing Culture (Or Your Sanity) with Varghese Summersett


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What happens when two prosecutors risk it all with a $9,000 loan and turn it into an eight-figure firm while raising three kids?

In this episode of The Game Changing Attorney Podcast, Michael and Jessica Mogill sit down with Benson Varghese and Anna Summersett, co-founders of Varghese Summersett, to uncover the story of how they built one of Texas’s fastest-growing firms. From humble beginnings and early challenges to scaling across multiple practice areas and offices, Benson and Anna share how they’ve redefined the client journey, built a culture rooted in growth, and balanced the chaos of entrepreneurship with family life.


Here’s what you’ll learn:

  • Why the client journey, not just courtroom wins, defines the future of law firm growth
  • How to scale from 5 to 70+ employees without losing culture (or your mind)
  • The tough truth about team members who won’t grow with your firm—and how to move forward

  • If you’ve ever wondered how to grow your firm, your family, and your future without losing control, this is the episode you can’t afford to miss.


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    Show Notes:

    03:15 – From rivals to partners: how Benson and Anna first met as prosecutors

    09:23 – Launching a law firm with just $9,000 and no safety net

    12:57 – Balancing opposite strengths: quick start vs. fact finder

    16:16 – The hard truth about team members who can’t grow with the firm

    19:13 – Building a culture rooted in growth mindset

    22:16 – Redefining the hiring funnel to find the right people, not just any people

    26:02 – Transforming the client journey with automation and human touch

    34:37 – Leaving the courtroom to work on the business, not in it


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    Links & Resources:

    • Varghese Summersett
    • Lawft Legal Case Management Software
    • Point Blank Tequila
    • Kolbe Assessment
    • Print Assessment 

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      Past guests on The Game Changing Attorney Podcast include David Goggins, John Morgan, Alex Hormozi, Randi McGinn, Kim Scott, Chris Voss, Kevin O’Leary, Laura Wasser, John Maxwell, Mark Lanier, Robert Greene, and many more.


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