Hey folks, Ned here! You know how much we all want our kids and students to thrive, but sometimes, despite our best efforts, it feels like we’re stuck in the same old patterns that just don’t work. That’s why I’m thrilled about today’s episode. We’re talking about the concept of student autonomy—why it’s crucial for engagement, learning, and even mental health. And joining me is someone who’s not just talking about change but making it happen: longtime educator and reformer Mike Nicholson.

Mike has spent decades in education, from being a teacher to a superintendent to a consultant, and now he’s working directly with schools to help them give students more meaningful control over their learning. We talk about what happens when students have more agency, the impact of constant micromanagement in schools, and how even small changes—like making homework optional—can lead to huge shifts. If you’ve ever wondered why student engagement drops as they move through school or how we can turn things around, this conversation is for you!

Episode Highlights:

[2:46] – Mike Nicholson’s journey in education and why he’s passionate about student autonomy.

[4:42] – The shocking decline of student engagement as they progress through school.

[6:44] – Why behaviorism (carrots and sticks) isn’t working in education.

[10:49] – What educators discover when they shadow students for a full school day.

[14:23] – Would any adult willingly go through what we put students through?

[22:04] – What school handbooks reveal about the culture of control in education.

[33:09] – The case for making homework optional—especially in math!

[41:46] – A real-world example of a school successfully giving students more control.

[45:51] – Shifting school from something kids "have to do" to something they want to do.

Links & Resources:

• Learning InspirED: https://www.learninspired.org/ 
• Download the Autonomy Breakdown: https://drive.google.com/file/d/13O75KCX6TFUPZ8jK6W2aYOlY7M_eWyLD/view 

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