Maybe it wasn’t all about the cell phones after all.

In this episode, I’m joined by eminent psychologist, researcher, and author Dr. Peter Gray to explore what may really be driving the decline in children’s mental health. While smartphones and social media often take center stage in conversations about teen anxiety and depression, Peter makes the case that we need to look much more closely at what has happened to childhood itself: less autonomy, less independent play, more academic pressure, and a shift from a play-based childhood to a competition-based one. We dig into why video games can actually qualify as real play, what kids learn when adults aren’t directing them, how changes in schools may relate to rising anxiety and depression, and what parents can do to help restore independence, confidence, connection, and joy to childhood.

Episode Highlights
[2:08] - Maybe it wasn’t all about cell phones and social media after all.

[4:34] - Where Peter agrees—and disagrees—with Jonathan Haidt’s The Anxious Generation.

[6:14] - Why video games can be real play and meet kids’ needs for autonomy, competence, and relatedness.

[10:13] - Why children are naturally motivated to play away from adult control.

[12:24] - What pickup baseball teaches kids that organized, adult-directed sports simply can’t.

[15:44] - Why negotiating the game may be even more valuable than playing it.

[18:45] - What changes when adults turn children’s play into competition.

[22:00] - Have we replaced a play-based childhood with a phone-based world—or a competition-based world?

[24:23] - Peter’s case for looking at Common Core, standardized testing, and school pressure when examining the rise in youth mental health problems.

[28:07] - Why school pressure consistently emerges as a major source of stress for young people.

[30:23] - What happens to pediatric mental health concerns when summer vacation begins.

[32:33] - Comparing youth mental health trends in the United States with Europe and other countries.

[36:47] - How homework followed children home—and pulled parents into managing schoolwork.

[38:48] - What Peter’s research during COVID school closures revealed about kids’ stress and family relationships.

[43:06] - Becoming a TAS parent: trustful, autonomy-supportive parenting.

[45:51] - Practical ways parents can create more opportunities for independent play.

[47:15] - One powerful question parents can ask to help children build independence and courage.

[49:20] - Why the sound of children playing outside may be one of the signals our communities are missing.

[50:29] - Peter’s hope that restoring childhood can become a movement for meaningful change.

Links & Resources
Dr. Peter Gray — Books & Resources: 

Restoring Childhood: How to Set Kids Free in the Age of Anxiety and Free to Learn: Why Unleashing the Instinct to Play Will Make Our Children Happier, More Self-Reliant and Better Students for Life

https://www.petergray.org/blank-2

The Atlantic — Article on Phones, Play & Childhood Mental Health

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/2026/07/phones-haidt-play-gray/687846/

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All of us worry about the potentially negative impacts of technology. We worry our kids are online too much, that social media is disrupting their sleep, academics, mental health, and relationships—and frankly, taking away good time outdoors. And it doesn’t feel good to have the same fight over screens again and again. But what if the answer isn’t simply taking technology away? What if we could design it differently—and help our kids learn to use it well?

In this episode, I talk with Juliette Blake, founder of Moxies, who has been thinking about girls, media, and technology since she was a teenager herself. Now a mom of three, Juliette brings the perspectives of both a tech founder and a parent to our conversation about social media, digital literacy, addictive design, and healthy screen habits. We explore how technology can be built with kids’ well-being as the North Star—and what we parents can do to help our kids become thoughtful, capable digital citizens.

Episode Highlights
[3:31] - Juliette’s remarkable origin story: how watching her eight-year-old sister and her friends struggle with body image and friendships inspired her to start a company as a teenager.

[6:05] - Why the tween years are such an important—and often overlooked—developmental stage, particularly for girls navigating media and brand imagery.

[8:45] - Kids don’t bring every problem to their parents. Why simply knowing “I’m not the only one” can sometimes matter as much as the advice they receive.

[10:33] - Magazines then, social media now: the medium has changed, but many of the pressures facing girls haven’t.

[13:36] - Can technology be part of the solution? Moving away from the attention economy and making well-being our North Star.

[15:35] - What “safe by design” actually means—and why companies building products for kids should bear responsibility for protecting them.

[20:58] - “Dark-patterned persuasive design features”: streaks, likes, notifications, endless rewards, and other features designed to keep kids coming back.

[24:22] - Why Moxies shuts down chat at night and how thoughtful guardrails can support kids when their own self-control gets wobbly.

[27:43] - Teaching digital citizenship in real time by helping girls reconsider an unkind message before they send it.

[31:17] - Autonomy with safeguards: creating online spaces where tweens can connect with people they actually know rather than strangers.

[35:56] - Building digital literacy into technology itself, from privacy and passwords to confidence and emotional skills.

[38:26] - The Anxious Generation, phone bans, and why simply taking devices away isn’t a one-size-fits-all solution.

[42:00] - Endless scrolling and the important difference between kids wanting to return to technology and feeling they have to.

[45:42] - Why “my kid isn’t on TikTok” doesn’t necessarily mean they’re avoiding the same addictive design elsewhere online.

[50:46] - Practical advice for parents: explain the why behind boundaries, start conversations early, and model the digital habits we hope our kids develop.

[54:09] - Why keeping devices out of bedrooms can protect sleep, relationships, and healthy boundaries.

Key Takeaways

• We’re still underestimating media’s influence on tweens. Social media and brand imagery can have an outsized impact on developing minds, particularly for young girls.
• Tweens won’t bring every problem to their parents. Sometimes discovering “I’m not the only one” can be just as valuable as the advice they receive.
• The medium has changed, but the issues haven’t. Whether the images come from magazines or social media, kids’ well-being should always be our North Star.
• Parents shouldn’t have to outsmart addictive technology. Companies have a responsibility to protect kids from “dark-patterned persuasive design features” designed to keep users clicking, scrolling, and coming back.
• Digital citizenship has to be taught. Screens make it easier to say things we might never say face-to-face. Kids need coaching to understand the real impact of their words online.
• Our own digital habits matter. If we want our kids to put their devices down and be present, we need to model that ourselves.

Links & Resources
Moxies Social Media Platform — joinmoxies.com

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What do teens really need to grow into confident, capable adults? In this episode, I sit down with two remarkable young advocates—Rona Majumder and Faris Smith—to explore why today's teens are asking for more autonomy, more trust, and more places where they can simply exist. Together, we unpack the growing conversation around "third spaces," teen gatherings, social media, and what adults often misunderstand about adolescent development.

We also discuss why teen "takeovers" are making headlines, how parental anxiety can unintentionally limit healthy growth, and what schools, parents, and policymakers can do to create safer, more supportive environments without over-controlling young people. If you've ever wondered how to better support the teens in your life, this conversation offers thoughtful perspectives you won't want to miss.

Episode Highlights

[0:00] - Introducing The Seven Principles for Raising a Self-Driven Child Workbook and why putting ideas into practice matters.

[1:40] - Meet teen advocates Rona Majumder and Faris Smith and hear why third spaces matter so much to young people.

[3:59] - What exactly is a "third space," and why today's teens feel they're disappearing.

[10:18] - Why teens crave more independence, trust, and the freedom to simply exist without constant supervision.

[15:04] - Navigating the difficult transition as parents gradually hand over responsibility and independence.

[21:05] - Teen takeovers: what's really driving them, and why punishment alone won't solve the problem.

[23:33] - The role of consumerism, disappearing community spaces, and the need for free places where teens can gather.

[26:57] - Rona and Faris share firsthand experiences attending teen gatherings and discuss the social skills young people need to navigate them safely.

[33:18] - Social media: connection, FOMO, and whether it has become today's version of a third space.

[40:29] - Would teens choose to erase social media if they could? The surprising answer.

[43:27] - Practical advice for parents: reduce surveillance, build trust, and avoid parenting from anxiety.

[45:11] - How schools can foster student agency by creating opportunities that are truly student-led.

[47:00] - What policymakers should do to better include teen voices and invest in meaningful community spaces.

[49:13] - Why today's generation may be uniquely equipped to handle tomorrow's biggest challenges.

Links & Resources

Danah Boyd: It’s Complicated, the Social Lives of Networked Teens

Ned Johnson article in The Washington Post, March 2, 2020: How we can help kids increase their sense of control as the coronavirus approaches

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What happens when academic pressure becomes so intense that cheating starts to feel normal? In this conversation, I’m joined by student journalists Ethan Chan and Meryem Orazova from Palo Alto High School’s award-winning newspaper, The Campanile. Their investigation into academic dishonesty uncovered some troubling realities about student stress, achievement culture, and the growing pressure surrounding college admissions.

Together, we explore why so many students feel compelled to take shortcuts, how external pressures can crowd out intrinsic motivation, and what parents and educators can do to help young people pursue success without sacrificing their well-being. If you care about raising resilient, self-driven kids, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

Episode Highlights

[1:41] - Meet student journalists Ethan Chan and Meryem Orazova

[3:25] - Inside Palo Alto’s high-pressure academic culture

[4:25] - When students first begin feeling college admissions pressure

[7:00] - How achievement culture shapes student identity and self-worth

[10:11] - The surprising findings from A Grade A+ Deception

[11:14] - Why cheating has become normalized for many students

[14:08] - The role of AI, answer sharing, and academic shortcuts

[17:50] - How external rewards can undermine the joy of learning

[20:46] - Choosing classes for genuine interest versus college applications

[23:50] - Why the “best” college may not be the right college

[26:58] - The hidden emotional costs of constant comparison

[29:28] - What students wish parents understood about academic stress

[33:56] - Why cheating ultimately hurts learning and confidence

[37:14] - Building school cultures that support integrity and well-being

[41:06] - Practical ways adults can reduce pressure and support growth

[43:46] - Final reflections on success, motivation, and thriving

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Dr. David Yeager joins me for a fascinating conversation about what really motivates adolescents — and why so many adults misunderstand teenage behavior in the first place. Drawing from his groundbreaking book 10 to 25, David explains why teens aren’t “lazy” or irrational at all. They’re deeply motivated by status, belonging, respect, and purpose — and when adults learn how to connect healthy behaviors to those drives, everything changes.

We also unpack the “mentor mindset” that helps parents, teachers, and coaches guide young people without falling into the traps of overprotection or harsh enforcement. From belonging uncertainty and resilience to project-based learning, earned prestige, and the future of education in the AI era, this conversation is packed with practical insight for anyone raising, teaching, or supporting adolescents. 

Episode Highlights

[1:08] - Dr. David Yeager explains why adolescence really spans ages 10 to 25 — and how motivation changes during that developmental window.

[7:25] - Why the “teen brain is broken” narrative has done more harm than good for parents, educators, and young people themselves.

[15:41] - How adults can motivate teens more effectively by connecting long-term goals to what matters to them right now.

[17:59] - The surprising anti-smoking campaign that completely failed with teens — and the one that transformed adolescent behavior nationwide.

[25:00] - David introduces the “mentor mindset”: high standards paired with high support and deep respect.

[30:49] - Why struggle, stress, and anxiety are often signs of growth — not signals to quit.

[38:25] - A powerful discussion on belonging uncertainty and why transitions can feel so destabilizing for young people.

[47:22] - The concept of “earned prestige” and why many schools unintentionally make academic success feel low-status.

[56:00] - How schools can reduce competition and bullying by creating multiple paths for students to thrive.

[1:01:00] - The hidden story behind Jaime Escalante and what truly creates transformational learning environments.

[1:08:40] - David shares why the rise of AI makes motivation, purpose, and meaningful learning more important than ever.

Links and Resources

Dr. David Yeager’s book: 10 to 25: The Science of Motivating Young People

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In this episode, I sit down with the brilliant Stephanie Malia Krauss to unpack what it really means to help our kids—and ourselves—not just survive, but truly thrive in today’s world. We dig into the idea that modern life isn’t just busy—it’s fundamentally out of sync with how humans are wired to live. Stephanie introduces a powerful framework around the “dangerous weather” we’re all navigating and why so many families feel overwhelmed, overstimulated, and stretched thin.

Together, we explore a hopeful path forward. What if thriving isn’t about eliminating challenges, but about reclaiming the essential conditions that help us endure and enjoy life at the same time? From sleep and movement to play and connection, this conversation will shift how you think about parenting, education, and what our kids really need to flourish—without waiting for the whole system to change. 

Episode Highlights

[00:00] - Why I’m excited about helping parents put “self-driven child” principles into action

[03:30] - Introducing Stephanie and the idea of “dangerous weather” in modern life

[08:30] - The word cloud experiment: what families are really feeling right now

[13:30] - Thriving isn’t the absence of struggle—it’s learning to live well within it

[20:59] - Allostatic load explained: when stress becomes toxic

[25:30] - The four forces: overtapped, overworked, overstimulated, overwrought

[34:00] - Rehumaning: reclaiming movement, play, and connection in daily life

[49:30] - Why sleep may be the single most important factor for kids’ well-being

[1:00:10] - The concept of a “thriving ecosystem” and collective care

[1:03:15] - Final reflection: what it means to truly help our kids—and ourselves—thrive

Links & Resources

Home | Rehumaning

Substack: @stephaniemaliakrauss

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniemaliakrauss

IG: @stephaniemaliakrauss

YouTube: @stephaniemaliakrauss

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In a world where violent incidents, political upheaval, and shocking news dominate headlines --- from immigration enforcement violence in Minnesota to studies pointing to "nihilistic" violence without clear motives --- many parents and caregivers are left wondering: How do we talk about this with our kids? And more importantly, how do we process our own feelings so that we don't become overwhelmed or paralyzed by fear, uncertainty, or anger?

In this episode, Ned speaks with teen mental health and parenting expert Julie Baron, LCSW-C guides listeners through developmental, emotional, and practical frameworks for navigating these conversations with children and adolescents. We'll explore the psychological roots of feeling out of control, the maladaptive ways people try to regain a sense of agency (including in forms of violence), and evidence-based tools from Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and her innovative CARE model for parenting that help families cope, connect, and act --- even in uncertainty.

Episode Highlights

[0:00] - Why we fall back into old parenting habits—and how to change that

[3:11] - Julie’s work with teens and families using DBT skills

[6:39] - How parent and child emotions feed off each other (and escalate)

[9:46] - The impact of technology and social media on teen mental health

[15:12] - Practical strategies to manage overwhelming news and stress

[18:10] - The role of control—and why feeling powerless fuels anxiety

[21:33] - Understanding maladaptive coping (and what’s underneath it)

[23:43] - What we can control: attention and behavior

[28:21] - How to talk with kids about scary or overwhelming world events

[31:41] - Why connection matters more than saying the “right” thing

[36:22] - DBT communication skills: goals, relationships, and self-respect

[40:27] - Choosing your parenting battles wisely

[44:01] - The power of validation (and how to use it effectively)

[46:24] - Why inconsistent parenting responses can backfire

[47:45] - Managing stress: increasing healthy “outflows”

[49:34] - Final takeaway: connection is the ultimate buffer against stress

Links & Resources

What Works With Teens Newsletter

Parenting Teens Through Connection

Julie Baron and Associates: Website

Linkedin: Julie Baron

Instagram: @parentingteensthroughconnection

Facebook: Julie Baron and Associates

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If you’ve ever watched your child struggle and felt that almost unbearable pull to step in, fix it, smooth it over, or make it disappear, this episode is for you. In this conversation, I sit down with author and parent coach Michelle Icard to explore why setbacks—real, uncomfortable, sometimes humiliating ones—are not detours from development but the very path toward adulthood.

Michelle joins me to talk about her latest book, Eight Setbacks That Can Make a Child a Success, and to unpack why adolescence is meant to include missteps, awkward experiments, and moments of regret. We explore rites of passage, identity formation, impression management, and the fine line between support and overprotection. Most importantly, we discuss how parents can respond when things go sideways in ways that build resilience rather than shame.

Episode Highlights:

[0:00] – Why we revert to old parenting habits, even when we know better
[2:06] – Why watching kids struggle is painful—and why that discomfort is necessary
[5:00] – Rites of passage: separating, stumbling, and reintegrating wiser
[9:46] – “Am I doing this for them, or for me?” A powerful parenting pause
[10:28] – Impression management: how teens hide, deflect, and protect their identity
[15:00] – Modeling mistakes out loud so kids can learn how adults process setbacks
[18:25] – Friend shifts, value testing, and why adolescence requires trial and error
[21:21] – Why insisting on values can backfire—and how to invite real conversation instead
[26:33] – Curiosity over correction when teens embrace rigid or controversial ideas
[30:52] – Why natural consequences are often enough—and why piling on rarely helps
[38:11] – Failure vs. setback: when disconnection becomes the real danger
[40:00] – Contain, Resolve, Evolve: a three-step model for responding to setbacks
[43:45] – Letting the bruise heal: why parents must eventually stop poking
[46:23] – The turkey story: a rite of passage, public shame, and lasting growth
[51:00] – The question parents answered almost unanimously: would you erase the hard years?

Links & Resources:

8 Setbacks That Can Make a Child a Success by Michelle Icard

Homesick and Happy by Michael Thompson

14 Talks by Age 14 by Michelle Icard

MichelleIcard.com

Erving Goffman: The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life 

Scott Galloway: Notes on Being a Man 

Sarah Rosensweet: Reimagine Peaceful Parenting 

Dr. Devorah Heitner: Mentoring Kids in a Connected World 

Dr. Lisa Damour: Untangling 10-20

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 If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing all the right things—checking boxes, meeting expectations—yet still wondering whether any of it really matters, this episode is for you. In this conversation, I sit down with New York Times bestselling author and researcher Jennifer Wallace to explore one of the most fundamental human needs we rarely name directly: mattering.

Jennifer joins me to talk about her latest work and the research behind why feeling valued—for who we are, not just what we do—is essential for resilience, mental health, and motivation. Together, we unpack how mattering shows up in families, schools, workplaces, and communities, and why rebuilding connection may be one of the most important things we can do for our kids—and ourselves.

Episode Highlights:

[0:00] – Why thriving kids (and adults) need more than good intentions
 [1:07] – Introducing Jennifer Wallace and the idea of mattering as a basic human need
 [3:05] – From Never Enough to mattering: what parents revealed behind the scenes
[5:44] – Why caring for children means caring for parents too
[6:18] – The “pay-to-play village” and what we’ve lost culturally
[7:12] – Why kids (and adults) need more trusted adults in their lives
[9:03] – Capitalism, religion, and who society decides “matters”
[10:25] – Aging, invisibility, and the pain of no longer being invested in
[12:52] – Why mattering is a felt experience—not something you can force
[14:46] – Defining mattering and the SAID framework
[18:32] – Community, reciprocity, and the power of mutual investment
[22:59] – Clean fuel vs. dirty fuel and what truly motivates kids
[26:48] – Honest feedback, gratitude, and real investment in relationships
[30:11] – Mental subtraction, appreciation, and noticing who matters most
[34:53] – Why gratitude and mattering protect mental health
[37:05] – Helping kids strive without tying worth to achievement
[42:48] – Rebuilding spaces of mattering in an isolated world
[43:08] – Key takeaways and why reminding others they matter helps us too

Links & Resources:

• Rick Weissbourd at the Making Caring Common Project
• https://www.thereciprocityeffect.org/about
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudita
• A Wonderful Life by Frank Martela

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In this episode, I sit down with education leader, parent, and author Chris Balme for a deep, thoughtful, and often funny conversation about what adolescents are really doing during the middle school and teen years. We explore why this stage of life is less about “figuring kids out” and more about understanding the intense social, emotional, and neurological work they’re already doing every day. Chris offers a powerful frame that I love: adolescents as identity scientists, running experiments to answer one core question—who am I, and where do I belong?

We talk about how adults can make that work easier instead of harder, why third spaces and unhurried time matter so much, and how validation, sleep, peers, and belonging shape everything during these years. If you live with, teach, or care about adolescents—or if you’re willing to remember your own—this conversation will resonate.

Episode Highlights:

[0:00] – Why it’s so hard to change how we parent, even when we know better
 [1:40] – Why adolescence is the right time to reinvent yourself
[3:10] – Chris introduces the idea of kids as “identity scientists”
[5:15] – Identity is built through social experiments—and adults can help or hinder
[7:45] – The importance of different social spaces where kids can reinvent themselves
[9:35] – Why “third spaces” and non-parent adults matter so much
[13:30] – The critical role of unhurried time and reflection
[15:35] – Sleep deprivation and what it explains about teen behavior
[18:25] – Social approval, belonging uncertainty, and the adolescent brain
[21:15] – Why validation beats fixing, lecturing, or minimizing
[24:30] – Middle school memories, awkward experiments, and empathy
[28:50] – Belonging comes first—before achievement and authenticity
[31:15] – What we gain, as parents, by walking this journey with our kids

Links & Resources:

Allo Parents: 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/12/01/1216043849/bringing-up-a-baby-can-be-a-tough-and-lonely-job-heres-a-solution-alloparents 

Ned's podcast Interview with Michaeleen: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hunt-gather-parent-with-michaeleen-doucleff/id1676859533?i=1000643496031 

About Michaeleen: https://www.npr.org/people/348778932/michaeleen-doucleff 

Adolescents Are Identity Scientists:  https://chrisbalme.substack.com/p/adolescents-are-identity-scientists 

About Chris: https://www.chrisbalme.com/ 

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