Content creators Lori-Jade and Max Siegel join Ben for an honest, deeply human conversation about late diagnosis, identity and what it means to build a life together as a neurodivergent couple.

Both diagnosed with AuDHD in adulthood, they reflect on being missed for decades - from masking and misdiagnosis to the quiet grief of realising how different things could have been. 

They explore how gender, queerness and hormones shape their neurodivergent experience, and what happens when both partners are navigating sensory needs, communication and regulation in real time.

If you’re navigating late diagnosis, identity or relationships as a neurodivergent adult, this episode is for you.

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Host: Ben Branson

Production Manager: Phoebe De Leiburné

Video Editor: James Scriven

Social Media Manager: Charlie Young

Music: Jackson Greenberg

Head of Marketing: Kristen Fuller

00:00 Introduction

01:52 Late Autism Diagnosis & Where It All Begins

05:57 Early ND Experiences & Feeling Different

11:38 Self-Awareness & ADHD Masking

16:21 Life Before Diagnosis

23:59 Recognition & Getting Assessed For ADHD

27:45 Understanding Yourself After Autism Diagnosis

37:56 ND Communication Differences Explained

43:13 Discomfort, Boundaries & Misunderstandings

48:22 Trust, Relationships & Being Honest

52:09 Daily Life, Challenges & Coping

56:22 Gratitude & Positive Reflections

1:00:55 Identity, Background & Personal History

1:09:10 Shared ND Experiences & Validation

1:18:43 Overstimulation & Sensory Struggles

1:23:38 Secondary Impacts Of ND

1:28:59 Lori & Max's Green Dot of Light

The Hidden 20% is a charity founded by AuDHD entrepreneur, Ben Branson.

Our mission is simple: To change how the world sees neurodivergence.

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1 in 5 people are neurodivergent. That’s 1.6 billion of us - yet too many are still excluded, misunderstood, or left without support.

To break the cycle, we amplify voices, challenge myths, and keep showing up. Spotlighting stories, stats and hard truths. Smashing stereotypes through honest voices, creative campaigns and research that can’t be ignored.Every month, over 50,000 people turn to The Hidden 20% to feel safe, seen and to learn about brilliant brains.

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