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Most people aren’t bad at dating, they’re just trying to solve the wrong problem. We treat dating like a personality test (“Am I attractive enough? Confident enough?”) when it’s actually a multi-stage process, and each stage punishes completely different mistakes. That one misunderstanding explains why dating feels so confusing, why men and women keep blaming each other, why dating apps feel brutal, and why so much dating advice makes things worse instead of better.
In this episode of Solved, Drew and I break down why modern dating feels so broken, and why it actually isn’t. We dig into the evolutionary psychology behind attraction, why men and women are optimizing for different things, how modern culture and dating apps amplify the worst parts of the system, and the three stages of dating that almost nobody understands. We also talk about confidence, rejection, status, attraction, and why avoiding rejection is often the very thing sabotaging your dating life. If you’ve felt stuck, burned out, or quietly wondering “what the hell is wrong with dating?” — this episode is for you.
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
5:12 Chapter 1: Why Is Dating So Complicated?
11:03 The different challenges men and women face
17:18 Facts
29:51 What Women Find Attractive
38:16 What Men Find Attractive
51:27 Chapter 2: A Brief History of Courtship & Dating
1:06:10 Modern Dating
1:11:41 A Glimmer of Hope: The emerging offline renaissance
1:21:37 Chapter 3: Men's and Women's Dating Advice Ecosystems
1:31:13 Inside the Male Advice Ecosystem
1:44:52 Inside the Female Advice Ecosystem
2:02:07 The Collision: Feedback Loops That Break the Market
2:21:27 Chapter 4: The Pre-Dating Phase
2:36:22 Building Confidence
2:37:59 Halo Effect
2:53:20 Conclusion Pre Dating
2:57:48 Chapter 5: Meeting People and Getting Dates
3:11:17 Flirting
3:23:15 Reading People
3:29:51 Chapter 6: Going on Dates
3:38:39 Trustworthiness
3:47:09 Conversational Skills
3:56:12 Emotional Regulation
4:03:03 Boundaries
4:09:07 F**k yes or no
4:14:44 The 80/20
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By Mark Manson4.9
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Most people aren’t bad at dating, they’re just trying to solve the wrong problem. We treat dating like a personality test (“Am I attractive enough? Confident enough?”) when it’s actually a multi-stage process, and each stage punishes completely different mistakes. That one misunderstanding explains why dating feels so confusing, why men and women keep blaming each other, why dating apps feel brutal, and why so much dating advice makes things worse instead of better.
In this episode of Solved, Drew and I break down why modern dating feels so broken, and why it actually isn’t. We dig into the evolutionary psychology behind attraction, why men and women are optimizing for different things, how modern culture and dating apps amplify the worst parts of the system, and the three stages of dating that almost nobody understands. We also talk about confidence, rejection, status, attraction, and why avoiding rejection is often the very thing sabotaging your dating life. If you’ve felt stuck, burned out, or quietly wondering “what the hell is wrong with dating?” — this episode is for you.
- Ready to stop listening to podcasts and actually start taking action? Join the Solved Community, a group of like-minded people who are taking small steps every day to make big changes in their lives: https://membership.solvedpodcast.com/
- Sign up for my newsletter, Your Next Breakthrough. It will help make you a less awful person: https://markmanson.net/breakthrough
- Get clarity on what actually matters. Try Purpose, Mark's AI mentor app that learns your patterns, challenges your blind spots, and helps you take action. Get 7 days free at https://www.purpose.app
Check out our sponsors:
- Get your first month of Shopify for only $1 at https://shopify.com/solved
- Let Rocket Money help you reach your financial goals faster. Sign up for free: https://www.rocketmoney.com/solved
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
5:12 Chapter 1: Why Is Dating So Complicated?
11:03 The different challenges men and women face
17:18 Facts
29:51 What Women Find Attractive
38:16 What Men Find Attractive
51:27 Chapter 2: A Brief History of Courtship & Dating
1:06:10 Modern Dating
1:11:41 A Glimmer of Hope: The emerging offline renaissance
1:21:37 Chapter 3: Men's and Women's Dating Advice Ecosystems
1:31:13 Inside the Male Advice Ecosystem
1:44:52 Inside the Female Advice Ecosystem
2:02:07 The Collision: Feedback Loops That Break the Market
2:21:27 Chapter 4: The Pre-Dating Phase
2:36:22 Building Confidence
2:37:59 Halo Effect
2:53:20 Conclusion Pre Dating
2:57:48 Chapter 5: Meeting People and Getting Dates
3:11:17 Flirting
3:23:15 Reading People
3:29:51 Chapter 6: Going on Dates
3:38:39 Trustworthiness
3:47:09 Conversational Skills
3:56:12 Emotional Regulation
4:03:03 Boundaries
4:09:07 F**k yes or no
4:14:44 The 80/20
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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