Sometimes marketing gold shows up when you’re not even planning to work. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray pulled in a surprise guest – Daniel’s far better half, Ari Murray – and ended up with a masterclass on landing page mistakes you’re probably making. From why mobile-first design isn’t optional to the sneaky ways widgets can ruin conversions, Ari drops quick, practical fixes that will actually make you money. Plus, you’ll hear some surprisingly competitive trivia about birthdays, cakes, and who’s the real GOAT in the relationship.

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Best Moments:

(01:34) Why designing for mobile should be your first priority for any landing page

(02:46) The case for full screen popups instead of small mobile forms

(03:55) How a two step form can capture more data without killing conversions

(05:34) Why birthday and half birthday emails are worth adding to your marketing

(08:03) The widget mistake that silently kills your landing page performance

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Some people feel awkward about liking or commenting on their own social posts, but Jay Schwedelson makes the case that not only is it not cringe, it actually boosts performance. From stacking early likes with company pages to pinning your own comments on Instagram, he breaks down the small hacks that can move the needle on engagement way more than you’d expect.

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Best Moments:

(01:00) Why Jay always likes his own LinkedIn posts within the first 30 minutes

(01:45) How using multiple company pages to like and comment gives posts instant social proof

(02:55) The 40% engagement lift from early self-engagement tests across 100 posts

(03:42) Study of 1.3 million posts shows liking your own LinkedIn content increases reach by 17%

(04:30) The “bonus tip” comment strategy that Justin Welsh uses to spark more visibility

(05:45) Why pinning your own comment on Instagram boosts comment volume by 20%

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Sometimes Jay Schwedelson gets into consultant mode, and with Gary Vaynerchuk in the hot seat, it turns into pure gold. This conversation is part marketing therapy session, part culture playbook, and part Knicks nostalgia trip. From why boosting bad creative is like lighting money on fire, to how brands should actually ride viral waves without getting lost in them, Gary breaks it all down with his trademark intensity. If you’ve ever wondered where branding ends and sales begins, or how to play the long game in the new era of “interest media,” this is one you’ll want to hear all the way through.

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Best Moments:

(03:14) Gary calls boosting underperforming posts the single stupidest thing in marketing

(05:11) The nuance of “jab, jab, jab, right hook” and why entitlement ruins the ask

(07:12) How to sample your own winning content and turn it into conversion gold

(09:45) Why last-touch attribution is total garbage and branding gets lost in the math

(15:22) Gary imagines going full suit-and-tie just to flip culture on its head

(18:00) Why niche passion beats follower count in today’s “interest media”

(23:03) The PAC framework: platforms, algorithms, culture as the real marketing playbook

(28:12) The difference between viral micro-moments and long-term cultural movements

(30:54) Knicks heartbreak in ’94 and why Ewing and Mason still matter

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Sometimes the best career advice isn’t the polished stuff you find in books, but the off-the-radar tips you’d swap with a friend on a coffee break. Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray are back with another “Bathroom Break” to spill the unconventional moves that can get you a better job, a promotion, or just out of a toxic workplace faster. From stealth edits to your resume to the surprisingly simple way to jump the hiring line, this one’s full of the kind of practical, slightly rebellious strategies you’ll actually use.

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Best Moments:

(02:00) Why removing your graduation year from LinkedIn can sidestep age bias

(03:01) The surprising advantage of applying for jobs while you still have one

(04:00) Why you should never turn down an interview, even if you’re not looking

(04:45) How tailoring your resume to the job description gets you past the first screen

(06:00) The DM trick that gets your application noticed by the hiring manager

(07:15) Using LinkedIn connections to get insider info before applying

(07:30) Building a personal brand as your long-term career cheat code

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Big social shifts are happening quietly, and Jay Schwedelson is here to help you ride the wave before it crashes. From a hidden LinkedIn trick that boosts your reach instantly to Instagram’s secret preference for posts made in its own app, these are the blink-and-you’ll-miss-them moves that can give you an edge. Plus, a timely subject line tweak that could lift your open rates by double digits and a candid peek into Jay’s post–college drop-off life.

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Best Moments:

(00:01) Why LinkedIn’s new achievement GIFs can spike your engagement right now

(00:02) The “experience section” hack that notifies your entire network

(00:04) How Instagram quietly rewards content made in its Edits app

(00:05) The rapid decline of Blue Sky’s user growth and activity

(00:06) Back-to-school phrases that lift email open rates by 15%

(00:08) Why Jay’s college freshman actually wants Life 360 tracking on

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Small business owners keep asking the same thing: how do you actually use AI without adding more to your plate? With Jay Schwedelson and Tami Cannizzaro, we get real about where AI already works today, from getting found in AI results to handling reviews and easy lifecycle wins. It’s the practical, zero-fluff playbook that helps you compete while you’re still juggling the day to day.

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Best Moments:

(01:45) Tami’s utility-first content strategy that simplifies a complex product into real help for small businesses

(03:00) Over 50 percent of small businesses are already using AI and asking how to get found

(03:18) Getting found in AI mirrors SEO best practices, with user generated content now a difference maker

(06:00) Quick, AI-written replies turn reviews into retention and trust by meeting the need for instant responses

(08:00) One-click automations for birthdays, off-season promos, and service reminders to drive repeat revenue

(12:30) The next wave is helper bots that prompt you first, making AI easier for busy owners

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Moving a kid into college is exhausting enough, but Jay Schwedelson somehow turned it into a life lesson on AI. A sweaty battle with a headboard led to a smart, stress-free way to keep up with all the AI changes without feeling like an “expert” (because no one really is). Plus, you’ll hear about one of the wildest product mix-ups ever, and why Celsius handled it like marketing pros.

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Best Moments:

(02:00) Why nobody’s truly an AI expert and why that’s freeing

(03:15) The big ChatGPT-5 change that now works in the free version

(04:15) Exact prompt to unlock 25 brand-new marketing tactics only possible in GPT-5

(05:25) How to skip the AI overwhelm and still stay ahead

(06:45) The vodka seltzer mix-up that landed in Celsius cans

(07:35) How Celsius turned a recall into viral marketing gold

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Sometimes your best growth comes from your worst flops. On this Bathroom Break edition, Jay Schwedelson and Daniel Murray get real about failure in marketing—not just accepting it, but planning for it, documenting it, and even celebrating it. From botched campaigns to abandoned social channels, they dig into why marketers should embrace failure as a feature, not a bug.

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Best Moments:

(01:41) If you're not comfortable with failure, you're not going to grow—period

(02:49) Bad marketing often just gets ignored, so most people never even see your misses

(03:30) Not documenting failures is worse than failing itself

(04:20) You have to create a culture where sharing mistakes doesn’t feel risky

(05:00) Every campaign should have a clear kill switch—don’t let it drag on

(06:15) The Guru Awards launch flopped fast, and that was the win

(07:00) Letting go of TikTok let Marketing Millennials double down on what was working

(08:00) Keto, Barry's, vegetarian… personal flops can be just as revealing

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Jay Schwedelson just admitted he bullies AI—and thought it worked. Turns out, he’s not alone. A wild claim from Google's Sergey Brin got Jay spiraling: can being mean to AI actually make it perform better? New research says no... but the real reason behind better results might surprise you. Plus, Jay explains why treating AI like a doctor (yes, really) is the key to getting more value from it.

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Best Moments:

(00:37) Jay admits he yells at AI when he doesn't like its answers

(01:18) Sergey Brin claims AI models respond better to threats

(02:45) Study from Wharton shows tone has zero impact on AI performance

(03:49) People give more info when frustrated—that’s what improves AI results

(05:00) Why giving AI more personal context makes all the difference

(06:17) The “AI is like a doctor” analogy you won’t forget

(09:00) Jay declares the Bachelor franchise is probably doomed

(09:40) Why you should skip Love is Blind US and go straight to the UK version

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It turns out your smartphone is probably better than the cameras Emmy-winner Tony Gnau used in the early days of his video career—and he’s here to tell you why that’s good news. Jay Schwedelson gets into what’s actually required to make great video, the gear myths you can ignore, and how to stop treating video like a one-off side project. If you think you need a studio and a giant budget to win with video marketing, this episode might just change your mind.

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Best Moments:

(03:15) The minimum setup you need to shoot video that won’t embarrass your brand

(04:30) When it’s fine to DIY video—and when you should go pro

(05:45) Why “let’s make a video” is the wrong starting point

(07:00) The smarter way to bake video into your full marketing strategy

(08:20) Why short form videos can actually spark long form ideas

(12:02) Every video needs its own strategy to succeed

(13:30) What B-roll really is—and when you don’t need it

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