Bob speaks with Jonathan Duarte, founder of GoHire, about the evolution of recruitment technology, particularly the rise of messaging and AI in the hiring process. They discuss the transition from traditional chatbots to generative AI, the importance of transparency and ethics in AI recruitment, and the challenges candidates face in an increasingly AI-driven job market. Jonathan shares insights on the future of AI agents in HR, the significance of public testimonials and portfolios, and the need for authenticity in job seeking. Bob and Jonathan explore the evolving landscape of recruitment, particularly in the context of AI and digital profiles. They discuss the diminishing relevance of traditional resumes, the importance of candidate engagement, and the power of referrals in hiring. The conversation also delves into the challenges of bias in recruitment processes and emphasizes the need for curiosity and innovation in utilizing AI tools effectively.

Keywords

AI, recruitment, messaging, generative AI, ethics, job matching, candidate evaluation, transparency, testimonials, portfolios, digital profiles, AI recruitment, automation, candidate engagement, referrals, bias, curiosity

Takeaways

GoHire started from a simple test to understand candidate communication preferences.

The evolution from structured chatbots to generative AI is transforming recruitment.

AI agents are becoming more autonomous and capable of assisting in HR tasks.

Transparency in AI recruitment processes is crucial for ethical practices.

Candidates are increasingly using AI tools to enhance their job applications.

Public testimonials and portfolios are becoming essential in the hiring process.

AI-driven job matching can create challenges for candidates.

Authenticity in job seeking is more important than ever.

The future of recruitment will rely on innovative assessment methods.

Digital profiles are becoming essential for showcasing skills.

Resumes are increasingly seen as outdated marketing documents.

AI can enhance recruitment by analyzing candidate interactions.

Engagement strategies can filter out less interested candidates.

Referrals significantly increase the chances of getting hired.

Bias exists in both human and algorithmic decision-making.

Curiosity about AI can lead to innovative solutions.

AI tools should be used thoughtfully and critically.

Sound Bites

"People are using messaging more and more."

"The resume's dead."

"AI tools will change recruitment."

"The hiring process is broken."

"You need to engage candidates."

"Bias exists throughout the system."

"You need to understand your unknowns."

"Curiosity drives innovation."

"You can't outsource critical thinking."

"Start using AI as a playground."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to GoHire and Jonathan's Journey

03:06 The Evolution of Messaging in Recruitment

06:11 Generative AI and Its Impact on Recruitment

09:02 The Future of AI Agents in HR

12:09 Transparency and Ethics in AI Recruitment

15:05 AI in Candidate Evaluation and Job Matching

18:00 The Role of Public Testimonials and Portfolios

21:10 Navigating AI-Driven Job Applications

24:01 The Importance of Authenticity in Job Seeking

33:04 The Evolution of Digital Profiles

37:55 The Resume's Relevance in the AI Era

40:40 Automation in Recruitment Processes

46:00 Enhancing Candidate Engagement

47:48 The Power of Referrals in Hiring

53:54 Addressing Bias in Recruitment

59:46 Curiosity and AI: A Path to Innovation

Jonathan Duarte: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bestlinkedinprofile

GoHire: https://gohire.com

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver:⁠ ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver⁠⁠

Elevate Your AIQ:⁠ ⁠https://elevateyouraiq.com⁠⁠

Thanks to Warden AI (⁠⁠https://warden-ai.com⁠⁠) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. 

Bob Pulver speaks with Noelle London, founder and CEO of Illoominus, about the evolving landscape of HR technology and data analytics. They discuss the importance of holistic employee insights, data integration challenges, and AI's role in transforming talent acquisition and workforce planning. Noelle shares her insights on the need for organizations to adapt to changing job roles and the significance of internal mobility in fostering a dynamic workforce. Noelle and Bob discuss the challenges and opportunities surrounding AI adoption in various industries. They emphasize the importance of employee experience, human-centric approaches to AI, and the need for fairness in decision-making processes. The discussion also highlights the role of HR leaders in navigating these changes and the necessity of integrating responsible AI practices into organizational frameworks. The conversation underscores the urgency for companies to adapt and leverage AI effectively while maintaining a focus on human values.

Keywords

HR technology, analytics, engagement, talent acquisition, internal mobility, workforce planning, employee journey, benchmarking, organizational agility, AI adoption, employee experience, human centricity, fairness, DEI, responsible AI, future workforce, automation

Takeaways

The role of HR is being redefined, requiring more strategic insights.

Companies are increasingly prioritizing data analytics in HR.

Benchmarking helps organizations understand their performance relative to peers.

Talent acquisition needs to align with internal mobility opportunities.

AI is impacting 40% of jobs, changing roles in real-time.

Connecting employee journeys is crucial for organizational success.

Many companies lack the tools to effectively analyze their data.

Organizations must adapt to leverage AI in their workforce.

Dynamic organizations require agility in talent management. 

Organizations often react to external factors instead of using available data.

Human centricity must be prioritized in AI implementation.

Fairness in AI should be integrated into every role, not just a department.

Evaluating AI solutions requires a human-centric lens.

Responsible AI education is essential for HR and talent acquisition.

Critical thinking is necessary when using AI tools.

The future workforce needs to be educated on AI literacy.

HR leaders can automate time-intensive tasks to focus on strategic initiatives.

Sound Bites

"Companies are prioritizing data more than ever."

"Benchmarking gives them the reality check."

"40% of jobs are going to be impacted based on AI."

"It's instinct versus data and reality."

"Are we making fair decisions about people's lives?"

"This has to be a part of every single person's job."

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Illoominus and Noelle's Background

03:06 The Evolution of HR and Data Analytics

05:46 Benchmarking and Talent Intelligence

08:50 Connecting Employee Journeys and Internal Mobility

11:52 The Role of AI in HR and Talent Acquisition

15:05 Challenges in Data Integration and Employee Engagement

17:48 The Future of Work and Organizational Agility

29:43 AI Adoption in Retail and Employee Data

34:26 Human Centricity in AI Implementation

36:54 Integrating Fairness in AI and DEI Initiatives

40:54 Evaluating AI Solutions with a Human Lens

44:45 Responsible AI and Critical Thinking

48:05 Preparing for the Future Workforce

49:46 Opportunities for HR Leaders in AI Adoption

Noelle London: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/noellelondon⁠

Illoominus: ⁠https://www.illoominus.com/⁠

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver⁠

Elevate Your AIQ: ⁠https://elevateyouraiq.com⁠

Thanks to Warden AI (⁠https://warden-ai.com⁠) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. 

Bob Pulver sits down with Adnan Iftekhar and Brian Moynihan, co-authors of AI Culture Shift, for a conversation that explores the dynamic partnership between human potential and artificial intelligence. The guests share how they met and wrote their book in just six weeks, leveraging AI tools and collective creativity. From frameworks that incorporate IQ, EQ, and AQ, to the importance of governance, transparency, and co-intelligence, this episode offers rich insights into how organizations, educators, and individuals can prepare for a human-centered AI future. Whether you’re leading change in your workplace or just starting to explore AI’s possibilities, this conversation is an inspiring guide to navigating transformation with intention.

Keywords: AI culture, human-AI collaboration, AI literacy, creativity with AI, education innovation, AI governance, co-intelligence, emotional intelligence, adaptability, future of work, book writing with AI, AI in K-12, AI in higher education, chief AI officer

Key Takeaways:

AI collaboration should emphasize humanity, not just efficiency.

Writing AI Culture Shift was a human-AI co-creation born of structure, trust, and transparency.

EQ and AQ are just as important as IQ in the AI age.

AI literacy must go beyond prompt engineering—ethics, critical thinking, and discernment are essential.

Education needs to move from one-size-fits-all to personalized, thrive-based learning models.

AI governance and training should be as foundational as cybersecurity protocols in today’s organizations.

Building apps, writing books, and experimenting with AI can be accessible—even for kids—when curiosity is cultivated.

The Chief AI Officer role is vital for navigating strategy, operations, and human impact across the enterprise.

Top Quotes:

“This book is really about humanity more than it is about AI.”

“AI hallucinates. Humans lie. You still have to verify.”

“The creative process is personal—AI is just a powerful partner in that process.”

“We didn’t just write a book with AI. We designed a new way of collaborating.”

“AI literacy is not about prompting better—it’s about thinking better.”

“The organizations that play with intention will thrive.”

Chapters:

Adnan Iftekhar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aiineducation

Brian Moynihan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianmoynihan

“AI Culture Shift”: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRDMVDFV

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver

Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com

Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. 

Bob Pulver speaks with Brian Fletcher, a musician turned software guy and founder of FM. Brian shares his unique journey from a journalism degree and a passion for music to a successful career in software development. He discusses the founding of FM, a consultancy that leverages AI to revolutionize software development and user experience. They explore the importance of human-centric design and innovative approaches to product development, including the use of synthetic personas for user testing. Bob and Brian explore the multifaceted applications of AI in various sectors, including communications, software development, and education. They discuss challenges in survey design, the importance of responsible AI, and the realities of AI adoption in organizations. The conversation also touches on the evolving landscape of education and the preparedness of future generations for a workforce increasingly influenced by AI technologies.

Keywords

software consulting, AI, user experience, digital transformation, content supply chain, synthetic personas, product development, technology, AI, survey design, communication, responsible AI, software development, client readiness, education, workforce, digital transformation, human-centric AI

Takeaways

Sound Bites

Chapters

00:00 Brian Fletcher's Journey: From Music to Software

13:01 The Birth of FM: A New Era in Software Consulting

23:57 AI in Action: Revolutionizing Processes and Product Development

30:34 Survey Design and Data Collection Challenges

32:00 Applications of AI in Corporate Communication

32:46 Responsible AI and Human-Centric Approaches

34:50 The Hype Cycle of AI and Its Realities

36:35 Leveraging AI in Software Development

39:43 Understanding Client Readiness for AI Adoption

42:58 Challenges in Production and Adoption of AI Solutions

45:47 Education and Future Workforce Preparedness

Brian Fletcher: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianfletcher

FM: https://buildfm.com

For advisory work, marketing inquiries and more AIQ content:

Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver

Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com

Substack: https://elevateyouraiq.substack.com

Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy.

Bob speaks with Siri Chilazi about human-centric solutions in the workplace, particularly in the context of fairness and equality. They discuss the need for evaluation and legislation of AI, the challenges of data maturity, and the role of buyers in shaping technology solutions. They also touch on current trends in US-based organizations regarding diversity and inclusion, and ongoing efforts to ensure fairness in hiring practices. Siri and Bob discuss the critical influence of fairness in organizational performance, the integration of human-centric AI, and the importance of addressing pay equity. They explore work redesign to enhance human and AI collaboration, flexibility in work structures, and the significance of AI literacy for future generations. The dialogue emphasizes the necessity of cognitive diversity within teams and the proactive approach organizations must take to ensure equitable AI access and adoption.

Keywords

AI, fairness, workplace equality, technology regulation, data-driven solutions, human-centric AI, accountability, hiring practices, diversity, inclusion, fairness, organizational performance, human-centric AI, pay gaps, work redesign, AI literacy, future of work, flexibility, diversity

Takeaways

Sound Bites

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Human-Centric Solutions

03:06 Exploring Fairness at Work

05:46 The Importance of Testing and Regulation

09:00 Data Maturity and Technology Challenges

12:05 Accountability in Technology Solutions

15:11 The Role of Buyers in Shaping Technology

18:09 Current Trends in Corporate America

21:13 The Future of Fairness and Inclusion

25:47 The Role of Fairness in Organizational Performance

27:11 Human-Centric AI: Enhancing Team Effectiveness

30:11 Addressing Pay Gaps and Job Valuation

33:03 Work Redesign: Human and AI Collaboration

36:43 Flexibility in Work Structures

38:25 The Importance of AI Literacy

45:55 Preparing Future Generations for AI Engagement

Siri Chilazi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sirichilazi

“Make Work Fair”: https://makeworkfair.com/

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver

Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com

Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. 

Bob Pulver speaks with Scott Stephenson, CEO and co-founder of Deepgram AI, about the intersection of voice technology and artificial intelligence. Scott shares his unique journey from particle physics to founding Deepgram, a voice AI platform that enables businesses to integrate voice capabilities into their applications. The conversation explores the technological advancements in voice AI, its applications in various industries, particularly in recruitment, and the future of AI in enhancing human interactions. Scott discusses the importance of deep expertise in technologies like PyTorch, the need for human oversight in AI, and the unique culture at Deepgram that values curiosity and learning. He emphasizes the significance of voice communication in the future and the competitive landscape of AI globally, advocating for increased investment in research and development to maintain leadership in the field.

Keywords

Deepgram, AI, voice technology, recruitment, machine learning, audio processing, talent acquisition, voice agents, PyTorch, company culture, human oversight, curiosity, global AI landscape, research and development, technology

Takeaways

Sound Bites

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Deepgram AI and Scott's Background

05:52 Transition from Physics to AI and Deepgram's Founding

12:01 Deepgram's Technology and Applications in Voice AI

17:58 AI in Recruitment: Transforming Talent Acquisition

24:00 The Future of AI in Conversations and Hiring Processes

26:02 Understanding PyTorch Expertise

28:10 The Importance of Human Oversight in AI

29:01 Company Culture and Human-Centric Approaches

30:19 Curiosity as a Core Value at Deepgram

32:14 Deepgram's Mission and Organizational Structure

34:55 The Future of Voice Communication

37:28 The Evolution of Communication Methods

39:46 The Global AI Landscape and Competition

52:24 Investing in AI Research and Development

Scott Stephenson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/scott-stephenson-

Deepgram: https://deepgram.com/

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver

Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com

Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. 

Bob Pulver catches up with Erin Peters and Iwo Szapar to explore the evolving landscape of AI literacy and their AI Maturity Index (AIMI). They discuss the importance of understanding how AI is being utilized in the workplace, the development of AIMI to benchmark AI readiness, and the STEP framework for implementing AI strategies. The conversation hits on the distinction between automation and augmentation, challenges orgs face in measuring productivity, and the need for a more nuanced understanding of AI's value proposition. Bob and his guests discuss the multifaceted aspects of AI adoption, how to measure progress, how to gauge maturity levels, and the importance of benchmarking. They explore the evolving landscape of AI skills in hiring, cultural shifts towards AI integration, and the necessity of responsible innovation. The dialogue also touches on the governance and ethical considerations surrounding AI, as well as global perspectives on its implementation, particularly in regions like Saudi Arabia.

Keywords

AI literacy, AI maturity index, future of work, automation, augmentation, productivity, change management, digital transformation, workforce development, AI strategy, AI adoption, organizational maturity, competitive benchmarking, AI skills, hiring trends, cultural shifts, responsible innovation, AI governance, global AI perspectives

Takeaways

Sound Bites

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to AI Literacy and Maturity Index

03:49 Understanding the AI Maturity Index

11:44 The STEP Framework for AI Implementation

18:43 Navigating Automation vs. Augmentation

23:23 Measuring AI Value Beyond Cost Savings

25:55 Measuring Success in AI Adoption

30:23 Understanding Organizational Maturity in AI

31:21 The Competitive Edge of AI Benchmarking

32:58 The Future of AI Skills in Hiring

37:12 Cultural Shifts in AI Adoption

40:37 Responsible Innovation in AI

46:05 Navigating AI Governance and Ethics

50:00 Global Perspectives on AI Implementation

Eryn Peters: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erynpeters

Iwo Szapar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iwoszapar

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver

Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com

Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. 

Bob Pulver speaks with Natasha Nuytten, CEO of Clara, about her unique journey and the mission of Clara in the talent acquisition space. Natasha shares her diverse background, the founding principles of Clara, and how the company aims to create a human-centric AI platform that enhances the hiring process. They discuss the importance of critical thinking, the concept of 'distance traveled' in assessing potential, and the ethical implications of using AI in human interactions. Bob and Natasha explore the potential benefits and challenges of using AI, emphasizing the importance of transparency, ethics, and equity in these technologies. The discussion also highlights the need for AI literacy and responsible use, as well as the significance of real-time assessments in job relevance. Ultimately, they advocate for a thoughtful approach to AI that prioritizes human collaboration and addresses systemic inequalities.

Keywords

Clara, talent acquisition, human-centric AI, critical thinking, distance traveled, hiring strategies, AI ethics, neurodiversity, career development, AI, recruitment, hiring, transparency, ethics, equity, technology, job assessments, AI literacy

Takeaways

Sound Bites

Chapters

00:00 Natasha's Journey to Clara

05:11 The Mission of Clara

10:05 Innovative Talent Acquisition Strategies

14:56 The Importance of Critical Thinking

20:15 Navigating AI in Human Interaction

27:33 The Role of AI in Recruitment

30:28 Transparency and Ethics in AI Hiring

34:45 AI Literacy and Responsible Use

39:21 Real-Time Assessments and Job Relevance

43:01 Equity and Access in AI Technology

51:33 The Future of AI and Human Collaboration

Natasha Nuytten: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natasha-nuytten

Clara: https://getclara.io

Human Side Up: https://www.humansideup.com/insights-from-a-digital-transformation-pioneer/

Can AI Make Hiring More Human?: https://www.getclara.io/resources/ai-deib-can-artificial-intelligence-make-hiring-more-human

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver

Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com

Substack: https://elevateyouraiq.substack.com

Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. 

Bob Pulver speaks with leadership expert Phil Wilson about the evolving landscape of leadership in the age of AI. They discuss the intersection of technology and leadership, the impact of AI on the labor market, and the importance of human creativity in storytelling. Wilson shares insights from his career as a labor lawyer and leadership consultant, emphasizing the need for leaders to adapt to technological changes while maintaining a focus on human skills and creativity. Phil and Bob explore the transformative potential of AI in creative writing, leadership development, and organizational success. They discuss how AI can serve as a thought partner, augmenting human creativity and helping to find connections in vast amounts of data. The importance of authenticity in leadership and the need for organizations to invest in their leaders for better outcomes are emphasized throughout the discussion.

Keywords

leadership, AI, labor market, technology, creativity, job transformation, human skills, automation, storytelling, future of work, AI, creative writing, leadership, authenticity, thought partner, organizational success, technology, innovation, productivity

Takeaways

Sound Bites



Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Leadership and AI

03:04 The Impact of AI on Leadership

05:59 Navigating the Labor Market Changes

09:00 The Role of Technology in Job Transformation

12:02 Human Creativity vs. AI

15:09 The Creative Process and AI's Role

17:58 Refining Ideas with AI

28:16 Harnessing AI for Creative Writing

30:30 Augmenting Human Thought with AI

32:26 Finding Connections in Data

36:33 The Role of AI in Leadership Development

40:52 AI as a Thought Partner

43:29 Authenticity in Leadership

51:53 Investing in Leadership for Organizational Success

Phil Wilson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pbwilson

LRI Consulting: http://lrionline.com

Leader Shift Playbook: https://yourleadershift.com

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver

Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com

Substack: https://elevateyouraiq.substack.com

Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. 

Bob Pulver and Kaz Hassan discuss the state of AI adoption within organizations, highlighting the significant gap between AI's hype and the employee experience reality. They explore the challenges of policy paralysis, the need for AI literacy, and the risks associated with shadow AI usage. The conversation also goes into the contrasting experiences of employees in the fast lane versus the slow lane of AI adoption, emphasizing the importance of team effectiveness over individual productivity. They call for better governance and communication strategies to support employees in navigating the evolving landscape of AI. Kaz and Bob emphasize the importance of communication, collaboration, and a mindset shift towards integrating AI into workflows. The concept of the 'superworker' is explored, highlighting how individuals can leverage AI to enhance their productivity. Storytelling in AI communication is stressed as orgs must help employees understand the strategic role of AI.

Keywords

AI adoption, employee experience, organizational policy, productivity, workforce dynamics, AI literacy, shadow AI, governance, communication, collaboration, superworker, mindset, storytelling, collective intelligence, team dynamics, innovation

Takeaways

Sound Bites

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to AI Adoption and Employee Experience

03:08 The AI Adoption Gap: Reality vs. Hype

06:13 Understanding Employee Perspectives on AI

09:01 Policy Paralysis and Its Impact on AI Adoption

11:46 The Need for AI Literacy and Training

15:14 Shadow AI Usage and Organizational Risks

18:11 The Schism in the Workforce: Fast Lane vs. Slow Lane

21:00 Team Effectiveness vs. Individual Productivity

24:02 Governance and Communication in AI Adoption

29:20 Navigating AI Adoption in Organizations

32:20 The Importance of Communication and Collaboration

35:43 The Role of the Superworker

39:02 Mindset Shifts for AI Integration

43:41 Collective Intelligence and Team Dynamics

47:44 The Need for Storytelling in AI Communication

Kaz Hassan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kazhassan

Unily: https://unily.com

AI Reality Check report: https://www.unily.com/resources/reports/the-ai-reality-check

For advisory work and marketing inquiries:

Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver

Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com

Substack: https://elevateyouraiq.substack.com

Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy.