Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené

Ep 111 The Gifts of Illusions with Rainier Wylde and Kristi Born


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This week we’re welcoming Kristi Born and Rainier Wylde who are partners in both life and in podcasts as cohosts of the Love Like Hell podcast. Kristi is a Marriage and Family Therapist who has worked extensively with families, couples, and adolescents in a variety of contexts to bring peace of mind and decrease suffering. Rainier is a teacher, guide, and writer who works with men and women around the world to discover their unacknowledged shadow and forge an intimate union with their masculine and feminine. 

We talk about their relationship, the immense amount of work involved in loving another well for a sustained period of time, breaking down the shame around infidelity and seeing challenges in marriage as moments to revisit broken agreements, and the curiosity that keeps their relationship propelling forward. 

We loved this session and witnessing the power of Rainier and Kristi’s relationship firsthand. 

You can connect with Kristi and Rainier on Instagram @kristimarieborn and @rainierwydle. For more about Kristi’s private practice visit relationallife.com. Listen to Rainier and Kristi’s podcast, Love Like Hell, wherever you listen to your podcasts. 

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