In this episode, the ladies are joined by the brilliant Amanda Seales. They start by discussing janky politicians and Amanda explains how rest helps her deal with the stress. Amanda describes how her mom encouraged her to be bold as a child and how black tv stars gave her inspiration and hope. The ladies bond over the crazy entertainment industry and explain how managers want too much these days. Tiffany also brings up a time when she saw Amanda in Kenya and how Amanda affirmed her. Of course, the ladies talk "Insecure", and Amanda explains how her experience behind the scenes at Insecure might not have been the best.

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