Tawny and Lisa chat with Irina Gonzalez, an editor and a freelance writer covering parenting, recovery, and Latinx culture. She also hosts the podcast, Pandemic Mama. The conversation includes the impact of the pandemic on women and caretakers in general, with more anxiety and uncertainty leading to more self-medicating with substances and behaviors. They talk about stigma, mental health diagnoses, and implications of the terminology we use. 

Music Minute features Hamilton, Demi Lovato, and Meghan Trainor. 

All about Irina: http://irinagonzalez.com/

Pandemic Mama podcast: http://irinagonzalez.com/pandemicmamapod/

On IG @msirinagonzalez

This episode is sponsored by the amazing folks at Soberlink! soberlink.com/partners/recovery-rocks