Tawny and Lisa talk about what spirituality means to them. Tawny is a “spiritual skeptic” whose spirituality is about feeling connected to herself. Lisa found a higher power in AA. Both of them love incorporating tools like astrology, Tarot, and self-care rituals to reinforce their spirituality. Tawny talks about “syncretism,” pulling different aspects of religions and spiritual practices to create your own spiritual system. As with so many things, spirituality can cover anything that is meaningful to someone.

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Music Minute features REM, Kate Bush, and the comedy of George Carlin.