You don’t have to pour a glass of wine to listen to this episode, but it would be appropriate: Claire and Erica are chatting with Jordan Salcito, Momofuku wine whiz, co-founder of Bellus Wines, and creator of Ramona, a very refreshing, canned take on a wine spritz. Get ready to drink up all her knowledge.

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