With Tawny on a book hiatus, Lisa interviews Shelby John, a therapist, recovery coach, and host of the Confident Sober Women podcast. She is also the author, of “Recovering in Recovery: The Life-Changing Joy of Recovery.” Shelby focuses on issues such as facing the wreckage of the past, building confidence, and parenting in sobriety. 

Music Minute features classic rock, worship music, and women rappers.

You can find Shelby here:  

https://shelbyjohncoaching.com/

Confident Sober Women podcast:  https://confidentsoberwomen.buzzsprout.com/

Shelby's book: 

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