On this episode, Claire and Erica are pondering a cashless economy—and what that that means for the bankless. They’re also talking about how big-money athletes are staying stronger, longer, with Jeff Bercovici, the San Francisco bureau chief of Inc. magazine and the author of Play On: The New Science of Elite Performance at Any Age—and what that means for the rest of us.

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