On this week’s episode, Claire and Erica have a topic hot off the garlic presses: whether or not those little kitchen devices actually work. And speaking of work, Claire Wasserman, the powerhouse founder of Ladies Get Paid, stops by to talk closing the pay gap, negotiating promotions, and what happens when women share their money stories.

P.S. If you’re looking for some light in your life, Claire and Erica recommend the Hawkins candlesticks—which are 10% off with the code AFEWTHINGS!