In this episode, Chris is joined by Duane Osterlind for a conversation exploring the role of shame in the healing process. Together, they examine how shame can quietly disrupt progress—particularly in men who are genuinely trying to repair after betrayal—often blocking empathy, emotional connection, and meaningful change. They also explore the concept of shame resilience, the patterns that emerge when shame goes unrecognised, and what it takes to move beyond those barriers toward deeper connection and repair.

You can find more information about Duane Osterlind and his Shame to Resilience program here: https://www.shametoresilience.com/