Make Some Noise with Andrea Owen

Episode 383: Vulnerability and the Will to Change with Andrea J. Lee


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This week I have one of the OG’s of the coaching industry on the show, Andrea J. Lee. Andrea joins me to discuss verbal abuse from the perspective of the abuser and being vulnerable enough to sit in that intensity in order to make a change. We also explore how to be bold and kind in a world full of injustice and misgivings. I am excited to share our conversation with you.

Plus, after 8 years and almost 400 episodes, the podcast is getting a new name! The unveiling is coming tomorrow. So keep an eye on the podcast feed for the official announcement. 🎉

In this episode you’ll hear:

  • Andrea J. Lee explains what she means when she describes herself as a futurist with her finger on the pulse of the human spirit. She also explains her experience as “A Canadian-born Taiwanese, cis-gender woman (she/her) who has been brought up with white privilege inside the model minority myth.” (6:06)
  • Andrea J. Lee offers a different perspective on emotional abuse through her digital newsletter - how do you not become the thing you suffered and not become an oppressor yourself. (10:15)
  • How Andrea J. Lee realized she was being verbally abusive to her husband and why she decided to share publically about her experience. (17:35)
  • Being vulnerable and why vulnerability might be held against someone. (19:57)
  • If we are not willing to fully experience the pain we are going through, if we can’t sit in that intensity, we are not going to make a change. (28:53)
  • “It’s possible to be fierce, outraged, bold, and go for your goals while also being kind.” Andrea J. Lee shares some ways to do this when you see injustices happening that anger you. (35:35)

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