I’m bringing back one of my most impactful conversations with psychologist and writer Dr. Kerry Kerr McAvoy about healing from narcissistic relationships. We unpack the challenges of being in a relationship with someone who has narcissistic personality disorder, the profound impact it can have on your emotional and mental well-being, and actionable strategies for self-nurturing after the relationship ends.

We also take a closer look at the common phrase “it takes two to tango” and what it means in the context of unhealthy relationships. If you’re healing from a toxic relationship or want to gain clarity on what healthy love looks like, listen to this episode again or tune in for the first time.

What you’ll hear:

• We explore the phrase “It takes two to tango…” Does it, though, when narcissistic abuse or toxicity is involved in a relationship? 
• Is there anything that you can do to help a narcissistic and abusive partner? The short answer is no. 
• Narcissistic Personality is a disorder. It’s not a mental health condition. Kerry explains the distinction. 
• Focusing on and nurturing yourself back to life is essential in a relationship that has dimmed you. 

Learn more about Kerry McAvoy:

Kerry Kerr McAvoy is a psychologist and a writer who educates on social media about cultivating healthy relationships, deconstructing narcissism, and understanding various other mental health-related issues. Her book, Love You More, gives an uncensored glimpse into the dynamics of narcissistic abuse.

Resources & Links:

Unbreakable – the Divorce Recovery Retreat, Sedona, AZ in April 2025

Submit your questions here for possible inclusion in future Q&A podcast episodes

Focused Strategy Sessions with Kate 

Phoenix Rising: A Divorce Empowerment Collective

Kerry’s book, Love You More

Kerry on TikTok

Kerry on Instagram

Kerry on Facebook

Kerry on YouTube

Why Can’t I Just Leave (book)

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Episode link:

https://kateanthony.com/podcast/featured-episode-healing-from-narcissistic-relationships-with-dr-kerry-kerr-mcavoy/