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What if aging could feel expansive instead of limiting? What if breaking free from alcohol in midlife wasn’t a crisis—but a launchpad?
In this episode, Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin sit down with their guest the fiercely wise and funny Debi Talbert—a former flight attendant turned alcohol-free mindset and longevity coach—who’s helping women age with purpose, power, and pleasure.

Debi gets real about her own drinking story, the “invisible middle years,” and how we can flip outdated narratives on aging. She shares her signature tools—the Oxygen Mask Framework and Aging Flip Flight Plan—to help you rewire limiting beliefs, ditch shame, and finally feel lit from the inside out.

If you’ve ever felt stuck in habits you didn’t choose or wondered, "Is it too late to reinvent myself?"—this conversation is your permission slip to change everything.

Resources & Mentions:

• Debi Talbert’s Website & Coaching: agingflipped.com
• Connect on Instagram: @agingflipped
• Debi on LinkedIn: Debi Talbert
• Books Mentioned:
  • Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert
  • Brooke Shields is Not Allowed to Get Old by Brooke Shields
  • Dopamine Nation by Dr. Anna Lembke

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

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It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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"What do I do when I’m not feeling lit after quitting drinking?"

In this refreshingly real episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, hosts Ruby and Susan tackle a question so many sober-curious and alcohol-free women secretly ask: “Why don’t I feel lit after quitting drinking?” You ditched the booze, expected fireworks… and instead? You're feeling flat, foggy, or just plain uninspired.
What gives?

Together, Ruby and Susan unpack this emotional hangover of sorts—the crash after the “pink cloud,” the disappointment when sobriety doesn’t fix everything, and the truth about healing in a world that still revolves around drinking. Through honest stories, client insights, and practical mindset tools, they’ll help you reframe the blah as a sacred part of the process—not a sign you’re doing it wrong.

What if this uncomfortable pause is actually where the magic starts?
If you’ve ever wondered when the sparkle returns—or how to reignite it—this episode is your permission slip to slow down, get curious, and reclaim joy on your own terms. Let’s get into it. 

Resources & Links

• Song Recommendation: Kinder by Copper Wimmin (find the link in our Facebook group!)

Check out our new Feel It 4 Life group — for those in the “now what?” phase after quitting drinking. We focus on authentic friendship, self-compassion, purpose, and building a life you love. 

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
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Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In this episode, hosts Coach Susan and Coach Ruby are thrilled to sit down with Jolene Park, a sought-after speaker, functional nutritionist, and creator of the revolutionary NOURISH Method ™ for alcohol-free living. Jolene is perhaps best known for her groundbreaking TED Talk, which introduced the concept of “gray area drinking”—the space between occasional drinking and end-stage alcohol dependency. With more than 350,000 views, her talk has become a cornerstone for those who don’t identify as having hit “rock bottom,” yet know their relationship with alcohol isn’t serving them. 

Jolene defines clearly what gray area drinking is and isn't and introduces her NOURISH Method ™, a physiology-first approach to healing that replaces guilt and deprivation with real, replenishing tools. From morning sunlight to magnesium, connection to curiosity—this isn’t about white-knuckling. It’s about resources.

Have you ever asked, "Is my drinking really a problem?" Or wondered why quitting feels so hard—even when you want to? This episode is your permission slip to get curious, not judgmental—and finally understand why alcohol might be numbing what actually needs care.

Episode Links & Resources:
Jolene Park’s TED Talk and Website: https://grayareadrinkers.com

Follow Jolene on Instagram: @jolene_park  Substack: https://substack.com/@jolenepark
Find a Gray Area Drinking Coach: https://grayareadrinkers.com/find-a-coach/

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
Click here to find out more:https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

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Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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What happens when one of New York’s top bartenders goes sober—and gets even better at his craft?
In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, Ruby and Susan sit down with award-winning bartender Chris Cardone, who’s flipping the script on what it means to thrive behind the bar—without drinking a drop. From winning the Diageo World Class US Bartender of the Year after going sober, to facing stigma in an industry where alcohol is king, Chris shares the raw truth about sobriety, success, and staying fully present in high-pressure spaces.

We dive into:

• What it’s really like to be a sober bartender
• How Chris is leading a movement to make bars more inclusive for alcohol-free guests
• Why your sobriety can actually elevate your creativity and connection (yes, even in the hospitality world!)

If you’ve ever wondered how to navigate social settings without alcohol, or you’re curious about how the drinking culture is evolving, this one’s a must-listen. Hit play and find out how living alcohol-free is no longer the exception—it’s the upgrade.

Connect with Chris Cardone:

• Continuous Beverage Solutions: Helping the hospitality world embrace alcohol-free inclusivity www.ContinuousBev.com
• Instagram: @continuousbev
• Email: [email protected]

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
Click here to find out more:https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Join our private community!

Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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What happens when you stop drinking—but the rest of your world doesn’t? In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, we’re diving into the heart-pounding moment every sober-curious soul eventually faces: telling friends and family, “I don’t drink anymore.”
Coaches (and co-hosts) Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin get real about the fears, awkwardness, and surprising freedom that comes with “coming out AF.” From dodging wine club gifts to crafting your alcohol-free elevator pitch, they’ll share the mindset shifts, boundary-setting tools, and hilarious stories that can turn dread into empowerment.
💭 How much do you share—and with whom?
💬 What if they react weirdly?
💡 Can this actually deepen your relationships?
Whether you’re brand new to alcohol-free living or quietly plotting your exit from wine culture, this episode offers the script, the courage, and the laughs you need to start owning your choice—on your terms. 

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
Click here to find out more:https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Join our private community!

Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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What if the first step to drinking less wasn’t quitting—but sitting still? In this episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, we’re joined by Rory Kinsella, a former hard-drinking musician turned Vedic meditation teacher and sober coach. Rory shares how meditation helped him effortlessly shift away from alcohol—before he even planned to quit.
From backstage hangovers to inner stillness, Rory’s story reveals how stress relief, not willpower, changed everything. We explore the power of Vedic meditation, why “clearing your mind” is a myth, and how his “Wise Monkey Way” helps quiet the chaos within.
Ready to trade the wine for something way more powerful? Let’s dive into the calm that could change your cravings.

• Visit Wise Monkey Way to learn about Rory Kinsella’s meditation programs and access a free introductory lesson.
• Follow Rory Kinsella on social media for updates and inspiration: @rorykinsellameditation

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
Click here to find out more:https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Join our private community!

Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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"Help! I've been invited to a bachelorette party in Wine Country, and I'm not drinking. What should I do?" Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free Podcast! In this episode, hosts Susan Larkin and Ruby Williams are joined by special guest Martha Wright—known for of alcohol-free living in Paris. Martha, a former wine industry veteran turned mindful drinking coach, brings her wealth of experience to tackle this listener question.
Together, Ruby, Susan, and Martha dive deep into the challenges and opportunities of attending social events—like bachelorette parties—where alcohol is typically front and center. They serve up practical tips for making the most out of the experience, from researching nonalcoholic options and finding joy in the gorgeous scenery, to reframing your mindset and creating engaging group activities that don't revolve around drinking. Martha shares her personal insights, stories from her own journey, and creative ways to stay connected, playful, and fully present at celebrations—without feeling left out.

Whether you're planning to join a wine country weekend, navigate a wedding, or just want to show up with intention and confidence at any event, this episode is packed with actionable advice and uplifting encouragement to help you feel lit—alcohol free! Grab your favorite NA beverage and listen in for ideas on honoring the true spirit of gatherings, forging true connections, and having even more fun without the booze.

About Martha Wright:
Martha is a veteran of the wine industry turned mindful drinking coach, now inspiring others to live alcohol free with joy. She splits her time between Paris, Portland, and New Orleans, always on the hunt for the best street markets and NA venues.
Follow Martha on Instagram: @themakealcoholsmallcoach
https://www.clearpowercoaching.com/

References:
Martha’s Sobriety Story & Holiday Tips – Episode 48

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
Click here to find out more:https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Join our private community!

Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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What if the real magic isn’t just in quitting drinking—but in everything that comes after?

Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast! In this episode your hosts and alcohol freedom coaches Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin get real about what happens after you put down the glass.
From unexpected emotions to surprising wins, they’re sharing the raw, beautiful, and sometimes messy truth about what it really looks like to grow, evolve, and rediscover yourself alcohol-free.

• What do you do when the pink cloud fades?
• How do you keep going when no one else around you is on the same path?
• And—most importantly—where does the joy actually come from?

Ruby and Susan also reveal their brand-new program, Feel Lit 4 Life, created to help you build lasting freedom and find your people on this empowering journey.

If you're tired of the all-or-nothing narratives then get ready for honest, hopeful conversations about what it means to feel fully alive without alcohol—this episode is for you.

Episode at a Glance:
00:38 - Intro: From quick fix to lifelong growth 
02:17 - Why the journey matters 
02:35 - Q1: What was most surprising? 
05:38 - Q2: What was most challenging? 
11:44 - Q3: Where did you feel affirmed? 
15:51 - Q4: What doubts did you have? 
21:33 - Q5: What did you notice most? 
28:49 - Q6: What made it easier? 
32:31 - Final thoughts: Joy, growth, and cycles 
35:45 - How we feel lit now 

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
Click here to find out more:https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Join our private community!

Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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What happens when “just one glass” turns into a deadly diagnosis?

In this raw and riveting episode of Feel Lit Alcohol Free, Ruby Williams and Susan Larkin sit down with Karla Adkins, co-founder of Zero Proof Life and author of She Came Tumbling Down. Karla was a young professional when she was diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver at just 36—a wake-up call that nearly came too late!

Why Karla wrote her riveting book: "I can't be silent anymore. I have to share my story. I want people to know what can happen, the truth of this dangerous game that a lot of people are playing."

We dive deep into:
✅ The toxic culture of pandemic drinking and “mommy wine” humor
✅ Why liver disease is rising rapidly in women ages 25–34
✅ What it really takes to heal—physically, emotionally, and spiritually
✅ How Karla went from silent shame to powerful sobriety advocate

This conversation is urgent, inspiring, and unforgettable. Let’s get into it.

Read Karla's compelling story And She Came Tumbling Down : Breaking the Bonds of Alcohol and Creating a Life of Freedom 
Connect with Karla: Karlaadkins.com  @thezeroprooflife @karlakadkins

Starting September 1st, join Ruby and Susan for a 21-Day Alcohol Reset Program with weekly group coaching that keeps you motivated, supported, and celebrating your wins. 

Come connect this September and let’s make this the month you start to feel lit, alcohol-free.

Find out more here: https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
Click here to find out more:https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Join our private community!

Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.

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Welcome back to the Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast! In this episode, we're diving deep into one of the most common beliefs we hear from clients: “I deserve a drink.” Sound familiar?

Join your hosts and alcohol freedom coaches, Ruby and Susan, as we unpack the cultural conditioning behind using alcohol as a reward—and why it's time to rethink that narrative. Why have we been taught that wine is the prize for surviving the day? And what if the real reward isn’t in a glass, but in the way we feel?

We're challenging the "work hard, wine hard" mindset and offering fresh, joyful alternatives to truly nourish yourself. From micro-moments of pleasure to playful rituals that light you up (without the hangover), you’ll walk away with tools, perspective shifts, and a whole lot of inspiration.

Ready to redefine what reward actually feels like? Let’s get lit—alcohol free.

Don't forget to follow and subscribe and leave a review! It helps to get the word out that living sober is lit!

Listeners have said that our podcast has helped them get alcohol free! Join us for FL21 LIVE in September 2025! Embrace 21 days without alcohol that feels lit!
Click here to find out more:https://feellitpodcast.com/FeelLit21-Sept25

Join our private community!

Connect with the Podcast Hosts:
Susan Larkin Coaching https://www.susanlarkincoaching.com/
Ruby Williams at Freedom Renegade Coaching https://www.freedomrenegadecoaching.com/

Follow Susan: @drinklesswithsusan
Follow Ruby: @rubywilliamscoaching

It is strongly recommended that you seek professional advice regarding your health before attempting to take a break from alcohol. The creators, hosts, and producers of the The Feel Lit Alcohol Free podcast are not healthcare practitioners and therefore do not give medical, or psychological advice nor do they intend for the podcast, any resource or communication on behalf of the podcast or otherwise to be a substitute for such.