Depression often whispers the cruel lie that your loved ones would be “better off without you.” These thoughts are not truths — they are symptoms of severe depression.

In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Katie, a licensed social worker, shares her powerful story of masking depression, battling guilt, and nearly losing her life to silence. Psychologist Dr. Anita Sanz joins to explain why suicidal thoughts are a red flag for urgent care, why stigma keeps so many from speaking out, and how telling even one trusted person can change the trajectory of your life.

This conversation is a raw and compassionate reminder that speaking up about suicidal thoughts is not weakness — it’s survival.

Primary Topics Covered:

• How depression convinces people they’re a burden
• Why suicidal thoughts are symptoms, not truths
• Katie’s personal story of silence, guilt, and near loss
• Dr. Sanz on the psychology of suicidal thinking
• The dangers of masking depression while struggling inside
• Fear of hospitalization and the role of stigma
• Why reaching out to even one person can save a life
• The critical importance of breaking the silence

Timestamps:

00:00 – Content warning and introduction  
02:00 – Katie’s story: from mania to deep depression  
04:30 – Depression’s lie: “They’d be better off without me”  
07:00 – Common depressive thoughts of guilt and worthlessness  
12:00 – Dr. Anita Sanz explains suicidal thoughts as symptoms  
16:00 – Why suicidal thoughts can feel “selfless”  
19:30 – Depression as the ultimate scam: How it convinces people  
24:00 – Katie’s turning point: Telling her sister  
26:00 – Breaking stigma and fear around hospitalization  
30:00 – Why nothing helps until you speak up  
34:30 – Closing reflections: Speaking saves lives  

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When Katie was hospitalized for suicidal thoughts, her stay was life-saving. Just three months later, she was hospitalized again—this time for emergency back surgery that carried a 25% chance of death. Both were serious, both were critical—but the way she was treated, and the support she received, couldn’t have been more different.

In this episode, Katie bravely shares her story of depression hospitalization and how it compared to her experience with medical care. She explains what it felt like to receive compassion, encouragement, and rehabilitation after surgery—but secrecy, stigma, and pressure to “move on” after psychiatric care.

Co-hosts Terry and Dr. Anita Sanz reflect on how stigma continues to shape hospital experiences, why mental health recovery deserves equal support, and how small shifts in empathy and openness could transform lives.

This candid story is both a reality check and a call for change: depression is just as life-threatening as any medical emergency—and deserves to be treated that way.

Primary Topics Covered:

• Katie’s history with bipolar disorder, depression, and suicidal thoughts
• What led to her psychiatric hospitalization after a severe depressive episode
• How her hospital stay helped her stabilize and begin recovery
• The differences in treatment, support, and language between her mental health hospitalization and her emergency back surgery
• How stigma shaped her psychiatric care vs. medical care experience
• The role of family, secrecy, and privacy in mental health admissions
• Why rehabilitation after psychiatric care is just as essential as after physical surgery
• How shame and guilt influence mental health recovery
• Reflections on empathy gaps among medical professionals treating psychiatric patients

Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro and welcome  
01:11 – Katie’s two hospitalizations: psychiatric care vs. emergency surgery  
02:02 – Early struggles with anxiety, OCD, and bipolar disorder  
03:15 – Wedding stress, depression, and suicidal thoughts  
04:27 – Opening up to her sister and husband about her suicidal plan  
05:53 – Psychiatric hospitalization: two weeks of life-saving care  
06:51 – Why rehabilitation after mental health care is overlooked  
07:34 – Emergency back injury and life-threatening surgery  
09:16 – Comparing hospital treatment: psychiatric vs. medical care  
10:38 – Discharge pressures: who decides when you’re “ready”?  
11:20 – Recovery support after surgery vs. after psychiatric care  
13:26 – Shame and guilt in psychiatric admissions  
14:39 – Staff responses: judgment vs. encouragement  
15:53 – Family secrecy: why her mental health stay was kept hidden  
17:23 – The support she wished she’d received during psychiatric care  
18:02 – Dr. Sanz: why medical staff struggle to understand suicidality  
20:59 – Depression and hopelessness as an “access issue”  
21:52 – Looking ahead: next week’s episode on suicidal ideation  
24:07 – Final reflections on stigma, empathy, and support  

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When a parent lives with depression, the impact extends beyond the individual—it ripples into the family, especially children. In this moving episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Kathleen shares her deeply personal story of parenting while struggling with depression. She reflects on how her children were affected, the guilt she carried, and the steps she took to support them through her mental health journey.

Together with host Terry, this episode explores the importance of honest communication, practical strategies for supporting children, and the reminder that love and presence—even when imperfect—make a profound difference.

Link to the Little Hearts Project website: https://www.thelittleheartproject.org/

Primary Topics Covered:

• How parental depression affects children emotionally and psychologically
• The guilt parents carry when they struggle with mental health
• Why open conversations about depression matter for kids
• Strategies to support children while managing your own mental health
• Breaking cycles of silence and stigma within families
• Reassurance that imperfect parenting can still provide love and stability

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction and episode context
 01:12 – Kathleen shares her experience with depression as a parent
 03:05 – The guilt of parenting while struggling with mental health
 05:30 – How children are emotionally impacted by a parent’s depression
 08:17 – The importance of honesty and openness with kids
 11:22 – Practical ways to support children while healing yourself
 14:00 – Breaking the cycle of silence and stigma in families
 16:19 – Reframing parental guilt with compassion
 18:42 – Reminders for parents: love and presence matter most
 20:06 – Closing reflections and resources

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Depression doesn’t look the same for everyone. In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Liz shares her personal journey through two very different forms of depression — one triggered by grief and trauma, and another caused by chemical imbalance.

Her story sheds light on the spectrum of depression, from episodes that eventually lift to treatment-resistant forms that require long-term strategies. Liz describes what worked for her, including therapy, medication, and self-care tools like music, meditation, and time in nature.

She also explains how support from others helped her identify her depression when she couldn’t see it herself, and how she now pays it forward by encouraging others to seek help and break free from stigma.

Links to "Signs of Depressions" resources:
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9290-depression
https://mhanational.org/conditions/depression

Primary Topics Covered:

• The two “types” of depression Liz experienced
• How grief-related depression differs from chemical imbalance
• The role of medication and therapy in recovery
• The importance of persistence when treatments don’t work right away
• Self-care tools that support healing (music, meditation, nature, acupuncture)
• Why support systems and being “present” matter so much
• How to help a friend or loved one who may be struggling
• Breaking the silence and stigma around depression

Timestamps:
 00:00 – Introduction from Bridget and Terry
 00:47 – Introducing Liz and her story
 02:03 – Liz explains the two different forms of depression she’s faced
 02:55 – Grief- and trauma-related depression that eventually lifted
 02:58 – Depression caused by chemical imbalance and why it felt different
 03:13 – Therapy and medication: finding what works
 03:46 – The role of persistence and hard work in recovery
 04:10 – How someone else first recognized Liz’s depression
 04:25 – Helping a friend accept and seek treatment
 05:21 – Self-care practices that support Liz’s healing
 05:41 – The importance of being present and listening
 06:26 – How support can look in simple, everyday ways
 07:08 – Breaking the silence and talking openly about depression
 07:38 – Final reflections on support and reducing stigma
 11:03 – Closing thoughts and outro

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Childhood depression often hides in plain sight — mistaken for shyness, teenage moodiness, or simply “a phase.” But the truth is, children can experience depression deeply, and without support, the consequences can follow them into adulthood.

In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Sally shares her powerful story of living with depression from the age of ten — how her sadness went unnoticed, how poetry became an early cry for help, and how decades later she’s determined to raise awareness so other children don’t suffer in silence.

Listeners will learn how to recognize the early warning signs of childhood depression, why stigma prevents families from acting, and how parents, teachers, and mentors can step in to support kids before their struggles become lifelong burdens.

Link to Cleveland Clinic article: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/14938-depression-in-children

Link to CDC article: https://www.cdc.gov/childrensmentalhealth/depression.html

Primary Topics Covered:

• Sally’s story: living with childhood depression in the 1960s
• How sleep changes, grief, and sadness can be overlooked as normal behavior
• The impact of losing a supportive grandparent and lack of guidance afterward
• Poetry and dark writings as early indicators of depression
• Teachers noticing — but families ignoring — signs of distress
• How stigma and silence prevented early intervention
• The role of medication and therapy later in life
• Sally’s reflections on resilience and building a career despite depression
• Advice for today’s parents, teachers, and mentors: tuning in and taking action
• Why early recognition of childhood depression can save lives

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction  
01:00 – Why childhood depression is often misunderstood  
01:20 – Sally reflects on her 10- and 13-year-old self  
02:17 – Childhood sadness, excessive sleeping, and feeling “different”  
03:26 – Losing her grandmother and the lack of family support  
04:12 – Using poetry as an outlet for deep sadness  
05:09 – Teacher notices dark writing, but parents dismiss concerns  
06:08 – Rediscovering letters that showed signs at age 10  
07:30 – What her grandmother could have done differently  
08:42 – Depression diagnosis at 21 and first effective medication  
09:32 – Experiencing happiness for the first time in decades  
10:06 – The reality of managing medication long-term  
11:35 – Building a successful career while living with depression  
12:30 – Describing “the pit” of depression  
13:44 – Sally’s ongoing work supporting Giving Voice to Depression  
14:29 – Why internet resources could have changed her childhood  
14:44 – The importance of ending stigma and recognizing depression in kids  
15:39 – How early support could have changed her life’s trajectory  
17:16 – Closing reflections and community thanks  

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Video games aren’t just entertainment — for many, they’re a lifeline during tough times. In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, we explore how gaming can reduce stress, ease anxiety, and provide relief for those living with depression.

Our guest shares how video games became a healthy outlet during periods of mental health struggles, and we discuss the research-backed benefits of gaming for relaxation, social connection, and emotional well-being. Whether you’re a gamer yourself or simply curious about the role of gaming in mental health, this conversation offers practical insights, validation, and hope.

If you’ve ever wondered how something as simple as gaming could help you cope with life’s challenges, this episode will help you see the positive side of play.

Related links:

BetterPlay Studios | Good Games, Good for You
How To Raise a Healthy Gamer
HG Coaching Resources + Tools (healthygamer.gg)
Video Games and Mental Health: Risk Factors and Benefits (psychcentral.com)

Primary Topics Covered:

• Why video games can be beneficial for mental health
• How gaming provides stress relief and emotional regulation
• The connection between video games and depression recovery
• Gaming as a healthy coping strategy for anxiety
• The role of social connection in online gaming
• Balancing gaming with real-life responsibilities
• How different genres of games can influence mood
• Breaking stigma around gaming and mental health

Timestamps:
 00:00 – Introduction
 01:42 – Guest shares personal story of gaming and mental health
 06:18 – Why video games help reduce stress and anxiety
 12:07 – Gaming as a coping strategy for depression
 17:50 – The role of online community and social support in gaming
 23:14 – Research on gaming and mental health benefits
 28:39 – Healthy gaming vs. problematic gaming
 34:20 – Practical tips for using gaming in your wellness plan
 39:56 – Final reflections and message of hope

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When you’re living with depression, basic tasks can feel like climbing mountains. This episode is about removing the shame from that reality—and giving you permission to survive in the smallest, kindest ways possible.

Mental health educator and Cereal for Dinner founder Emily Derecktor returns to walk us through shame-free survival tips for hard days. From hygiene hacks to meal shortcuts to breaking the dishes into “just take out the trash today,” you’ll hear evidence-based tools that are easy to miss in traditional self-care advice. Plus, learn how behavioral activation works—and why getting out of bed isn’t a character test.

This is the episode to return to when you’re in the thick of it and need a voice that says, “You’re not lazy. You’re surviving. And that counts.”

Cereal for Dinner's Website: www.cerealfordinner.org/

Primary Topics Covered:

• How shame keeps people from talking about functioning challenges
• The internal voice that says “you should be doing more” and how to quiet it
• Why even the smallest acts—like moving under a blanket—are valid wins
• Tools and mental workarounds for hygiene, cleaning, and nutrition
• Breaking big tasks into tiny phases without guilt
• Giving yourself permission to “do it badly” instead of not at all
• Using behavioral activation to create momentum (not motivation)
• Finding dignity in low-energy meals, disposable dishes, and routines
• Creating a prep plan for your future self when symptoms return
• Building trust with yourself through compassionate daily choices

Timestamps:

00:00 Welcome back and episode reintroduction  
01:02 The hidden shame around “not functioning” with depression  
02:15 Why “trying harder” isn't the answer  
03:21 Emily on reframing low-functioning days with self-compassion  
04:12 How survival looks different for everyone—and that’s okay  
05:18 “Do it badly” vs. doing nothing at all  
06:43 Bedside baskets, dry hygiene tools, and intentional laziness  
08:07 Tiny wins: even lifting your head can be a success  
09:12 Eating when you can’t cook: judgment-free food solutions  
10:34 Cleaning in shame-free phases: permission to go slow  
11:49 Helping future-you: stocking supplies for hard days  
13:06 How behavioral activation works when motivation is gone  
14:38 Letting apps, alarms, or friends help guide your day  
15:29 The emotional weight of mess—and what to do about it  
16:33 Accepting support: cleaning help, prepared food, and connection  
17:52 Building a mental health toolkit rooted in kindness  
18:30 Encouragement to stop comparing yourself to others  
19:46 Where to find more tools and resources from *Cereal for Dinner*  

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In this powerful episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Emily Director shares her journey of living with depression in college and beyond. From struggling with loneliness at Brown University to creating peer-support programs at Penn, Emily’s story captures both the weight of depression and the hope found in resilience and connection. She discusses her hospitalization, the ongoing challenges of severe depression, and how reframing emotions helped her reclaim moments of joy. Emily’s voice reminds us that while recovery is not linear, community, support, and self-compassion can carry us through.

Link to Cereal for Dinner's website: www.cerealfordinner.org/

Primary Topics Covered:

• Emily’s early experiences with depression at Brown University
• How environment and loneliness contribute to mental health struggles
• Creating peer-support initiatives and mental health resources at Penn
• Leaving medical school, identity loss, and the impact of hospitalization
• The waxing and waning nature of depression over a lifetime
• Learning to process “negative” emotions without fear
• Discovering joy again after years of numbness
• The importance of peer support and community in recovery

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction by hosts Terry and Dr. Anita Sanchez
 01:23 – Introducing guest Emily Director
 03:05 – Academic background and Ivy League pressures
 03:42 – Depression and loneliness at Brown University
 04:26 – Family history of mental illness (“the Director curse”)
 05:17 – Transferring schools and mental health advocacy at Penn
 06:46 – Creating a peer counseling program and screening tool
 07:26 – Depression as a spectrum, unique for each person
 08:53 – Medical school struggles and worsening depression
 10:01 – Leaving med school, identity loss, and hospitalization
 11:32 – The role of therapy and recognizing PTSD
 12:11 – Accepting sadness and reframing emotions
 13:35 – Naming emotions to reduce panic about sadness
 15:20 – Depression as an ongoing, waxing-waning condition
 16:18 – Experiencing joy again after long numbness
 17:02 – Fear of losing support during recovery
 18:32 – Daily struggles with basic tasks during depression
 19:17 – Co-host reflections on debilitating depression
 20:30 – Practical tips for functioning (preview of next episode)
 21:38 – Power of peer support and community invitation
 22:27 – Call for listener engagement and feedback
 22:47 – Closing thoughts and resources

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When it comes to New Year’s resolutions, many of us set big goals that can feel overwhelming and unsustainable. But what if the key to lasting change — and better mental health — is found in small, intentional steps? In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, we explore the powerful connection between exercise, movement, and mental health.

Our guest, exercise psychologist and health coach Michelle Elmer, shares how reframing movement as a tool for mental well-being can reduce stress, lift depression, and help us feel more in control of our lives. Whether it’s taking a short walk, stretching, or simply moving your body with compassion instead of punishment, you’ll hear why small shifts in how you approach exercise can lead to profound benefits for both body and mind.

This episode offers encouragement for anyone feeling stuck, anxious, or self-critical as they look ahead to a new year. Instead of aiming for perfection, we discuss how to cultivate self-compassion, celebrate progress, and use movement as a foundation for healing.

Adel Korkor's TEDx Talk: (61) Motion Impacts Emotion: My Journey With How Running Saved My Life | Adel B. Korkor, M.D. | TEDxOcala - YouTube 

Link to Article quoted in episode:
Depression and anxiety: Exercise eases symptoms - Mayo Clinic

Intentions/Resolutions read at end of episode: 8 Alternatives to New Year’s Resolutions If You Live With Mental Illness (themighty.com) 

Primary Topics Covered:

• Why most New Year’s resolutions fail and how to make sustainable ones
• The mental health benefits of exercise and movement
• How self-compassion creates lasting change
• Shifting from punishment-based exercise to joy-based movement
• Using small, consistent actions to reduce stress and improve mood
• Reframing physical activity as a form of self-care, not discipline
• Encouragement for those struggling with depression or anxiety during the New Year
• How exercise can be a protective factor in recovery and daily mental health

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction and episode overview
 02:10 – Why most New Year’s resolutions fail
 05:22 – The link between exercise and mental health benefits
 08:47 – Self-compassion vs. self-criticism when setting goals
 12:15 – Shifting from punishment-based exercise to movement for joy
 16:42 – How small steps lead to sustainable progress
 21:03 – Using movement as a daily stress-relief practice
 24:30 – Encouragement for listeners struggling with depression in the New Year
 28:12 – Final thoughts: Why movement is one of the best resolutions for mental health

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In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, Charlotte Underwood shares her deeply personal story of surviving teenage depression. Looking back, she reflects on the lies depression told her, the hidden strength she didn’t realize she had, and the treatments and support that helped her build a brighter future.

Charlotte offers the perspective she wishes her younger self could have known: that she wasn’t alone, that healing is possible, and that life can become meaningful again. Her story provides a message of hope, compassion, and encouragement for teens, parents, and anyone navigating depression.

This episode is both a validation of the pain of teen depression and a reminder that recovery is possible with support, resilience, and the right tools.

Primary Topics Covered:

• Charlotte’s teenage experience with depression and trauma
• What she wishes her younger self had known about mental illness
• The false narratives depression creates
• The importance of family support and connection
• Why opening up is critical in healing
• Treatment, therapy, and self-care in recovery
• Discovering hope and building a meaningful life

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction by Terry and Anita
 01:11 – The convincing lies of depression
 01:36 – Charlotte’s holiday moment of gratitude that went viral
 02:52 – Charlotte describes her teenage self and early struggles
 03:57 – How she envisioned her future at age 14
 04:23 – Surviving trauma, alcoholism, and self-harm
 04:52 – The life she’s built in her 20s
 05:41 – The night of baking cookies and dancing in her kitchen
 07:10 – What she wishes she’d known about depression as a teen
 07:56 – Hidden strength and resilience
 08:53 – Family support and her father’s response to self-harm
 10:15 – Keeping depression a secret vs. opening up
 11:19 – The lie of being “alone” in depression
 12:08 – What she wishes she’d known about treatment options
 13:10 – Hope and believing in a future worth fighting for
 14:20 – Charlotte’s message to teens and others struggling
 16:09 – Terry and Anita reflect on resilience and strength
 17:28 – Finding the spark of hope in dark times
 19:00 – A quote on resilience and survival
 19:55 – Upcoming holiday and New Year’s episodes
 21:57 – Closing message and reminder: Speak up, listen, and support

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