It Depends

By Jordan Holland and Katie HoganBusiness Entrepreneurship Health & Fitness Fitness

It Depends episodes

June 21, 2024 63. Wearables are for women, saunas are for men
Katie and Jordan are back with their usual blend of wit and wisdom, diving into the absurd and the essential. Katie is adamant about NOT skydiving and Jordan has tried to die on more than 30 occasions. They hilariously navigate the history of June 13th and debate the most useless gym equipment (spoiler: it's not what you think). They tackle Yelp reviews, wearable tech, and the mental health benefits of saunas, all while Jordan reveals the roller-coaster saga of securing a new gym lease. Buckle up for an episode that's as unpredictable as their tangents!

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59 min
June 02, 2024 62. The gym without a face, CrossFit Games Semifinals, and Hyrox at your gym
Jordan and Katie don't agree about dogs. Again. There was some epic racing at semifinals but also some really bad attendance and should your gym be a Hyrox affiliate?

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IG: @katiehogan777 | @blacknesssmonster
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1 hr
May 19, 2024 61. Humans vs the algorithm, sucking at sales, and snakes everywhere.
Katie and Jordan kick things off with lots of snake-related news and then Katie gets a little heated over Orange Theory's "data-driven" coaching style. The team answers a listener question about sales and they get into gym filming etiquette.
57 min
April 30, 2024 60. Don't be the best, lessons from Stages, ISSA making moves, and I hate your vibe.
Katie and Jordan go way off track with bad gym vibes and conjoined twins but once they rein it back in there is some really good stuff to learn from Stages cycling and the ISSA. Don't drop people just because you don't mesh with them and make sure you are taking advantage of the new tools from CrossFit HQ.

53 min
April 01, 2024 59. Jay Decoons is here, the Open is over and we loved it, and a SWEEET listener quesiton
We got the new big dog of the affiliate team for an expansive conversation on all things affiliate. We were already hyped on his resume when he first got hired but after getting to unpack all things affiliates with him we are even more bought in. Great listener question about the risk of losing the love for CrossFit but making it a business and all the normal ramblings.
1 hr 45 min
March 09, 2024 58. Lay off the buterfly and don't let the brand languish. Lessons from Lifetime Fitness, Bowflex, and Jazzersize.
Katie and Jordan go ham on butterfly pull ups and catch up on a lot of CrossFit news. The Open is in full swing and Katie was basically the most important and beautiful person at the live announcement. The duo draws lessons from Lifetime's stellar performance and they dig into the risk of the CrossFit brand languishing if the players in this community don't all row in the same direction.
1 hr
February 23, 2024 57. Charge like a bathhouse, Riot is closing, and selling your gym
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In the engaging episode of "It Depends" dated February 22, hosts Katie Hogan and Jordan Holland dive into an eclectic mix of topics, from Taco Bell's innovative menu collaborations and a judge's scandalous resignation to the historic conclusion of Japan's Naked Man Festival. They weave in fascinating historical tidbits like the introduction of popcorn to English colonists and the cession of Florida to the U.S., while engaging in light-hearted banter about personal extravagances and the peculiarities of fitness spaces. The episode shifts towards more serious discussions on gym ownership, with a focus on the challenges and opportunities presented by stagnant foot traffic in January, the emerging trend of bathhouses as wellness franchises, and strategic advice for gym owners considering an exit. Personal updates and listener questions add a personal touch, making the podcast a comprehensive exploration of fitness, business, and the oddities of daily life, all delivered with Hogan and Holland's insightful and entertaining commentary.CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post | Wall Street Journal | NewYork Times | IHRSA | CrossFit Hillcrest | Riot Athletics CrossFit | Megawatt CrossFit
IG: @katiehogan777 @blacknesssmonster
Email: [email protected][email protected]

51 min
February 06, 2024 56. Can there be too much sex in the gym? What if your partner sucks?
Jordan and Katie do it again. And by "it" I mean they surprise and delight with their brilliance and banter.

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IG: @katiehogan777 @blacknesssmonster
Email: [email protected] [email protected]
54 min
January 19, 2024 55. Your CRM game better be strong. Tesla, Tiktok and burnout?
Jordan and Katie chat about CRMs, Tesla fitness gear, and Tiktok partnering with Peloton. The team answers a heavy listener question about burnout as well as other brilliant and delightful musings.

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IG: @katiehogan777 @blacknesssmonster
Email: [email protected] [email protected]

1 hr
December 31, 2023 54. Why do people fawn over earlier eras of CrossFit, Google search trends, new years resolutioner haters
Jordan and Katie discuss why folks seem so enamored with an earlier era of CrossFit. They dig into industry news about Google search trends and what they indicate. And the team unpacks negative attitudes around the influx of New Years resolutions.

CrossFit | CrossFit Games | Become a CrossFit Affiliate | Fitt Insider | Club Industry | Athletech News | Associated Press | Professional Coach Newsletter | Onthisday | Forbes | Barbell Spin | Morning Chalk up | Washington Post | Wall Street Journal | NewYork Times | IHRSA
IG: @katiehogan777 @blacknesssmonster
Email: [email protected] [email protected]

1 hr 6 min

About It Depends

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CrossFit Games legend and seminar staff flowmaster Katie Hogan, and multi-location affiliate owner, and CrossFit Games participation award winner Jordan Holland discuss everything at the intersection…