Leaving Eden Podcast

On today's episode, Gavi and Sadie discuss the history of Jerry Falwell's ministry at Thomas Road Baptist Church, his political activism with The Moral Majority, and his christian university, Liberty University.

TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. This episode has a general content warning for racism and homophobia, but it’s not as brash or as intentionally hurtful as the Ruckman episode for example. We are going to read some quotes from Falwell on race and on LGBTQ people, but we’ll give a heads-up before we get into that.

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On this episode, Sadie and Gavi are once again joined by Dr. Shoshana Fagen, who lends her considerable expertise to the discussion of the ubiquitous and infamous fundamentalist parenting book/child abuse manual, "To Train Up A Child," By Michael and Debi Pearl. The techniques recommended in this book have been used by fundamentalist families like the Duggars for decades. Together with Shoshana, they examine how truly horrible and harmful this book is, and what healing from this sort of upbringing might look like.

TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. This Entire Episode carries a trigger warning for child abuse, specifically, hitting, spanking, hitting with implements, what implements are recommended to hit your child, how to break a child’s spirit. We will of course be validating survivors of such abuse, talking scientifically about why it’s not okay, trying to use language that’s less triggering, but it is the topic of the episode. We will also more briefly mention topics such as complimentarianism, wives submitting to husbands, marital rape, and briefly mention the deaths of several children which were related to the teachings put forth in this book. 

Parenting resources recommended by Dr. Fagen:

• https://healthychildren.org
• How to Talk So Kids Will Listen & Listen So Kids Will Talk by Adele Faber and Elaine Mazlish
• 1-2-3 magic by Thomas W. Phelan, PhD
•  The Explosive Child by Ross Green (anything by Ross Green, PhD, about Collaborative Problem Solving or Collaborative and Proactive Solutions)
• The Good Inside podcast, hosted by Dr. Becky Kennedy, is a weekly broadcast of parenting tools and strategies that are presented in a digestible and actionable way.   www.goodinside.com (If you are willing to promote another podcast that is)
•  National Association of School Psychologists have several publications and blogs regarding many topics that bother parents (https://www.nasponline.org/resources-and-publications/resources-and-podcasts)

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On this episode, Sadie and Gavi take a deep dive into fundamentalist hate preacher Peter Ruckman, his bizarre autobiography, his multiple marriages, and his theology, which was extreme even for IFB standards.

Sources for this episode are available here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/sources-for-4-24-81931295

TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. This episode will contain SO MUCH RACISM. Most of the time, I’ve chosen not to include direct quotes, because it’s honestly that bad. There’s one section where I’m going to read some lightly censored quotes, and I’ll give you the heads up before I do. There’s also some generalized misogyny, victim blaming of ex-wives, and Ruckman describes two different suicide attempts very callously. We won’t read his exact words to attempt to mitigate harm for listeners.

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On today's episode, Sadie and Gavi answer listener questions about a variety of subjects!

In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. In this episode, we will talk about adoption, foster care, and generational sins, and there will be a very brief, very surface level discussion of the Rapture, which I will give an additional TW for before we get into it.

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On Today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss instances in which prominent fundies have given accidentally "woke" takes, from Girl Defined's sex work seminar to Paul Olliges insights into the nature of online discourse to the "He Gets Us" super bowl ads. They also discuss the etymology of the word "woke" and how it came to be the dogwhistle/boogeyman that the religious right has made it out to be in recent years!

(Apologies for the audio quality issues, we are working through a new method of recording podcast episodes! We hope it doesn't seriously affect your listening experience!)

TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. In this episode we are going to be talking about a lot of takes so bad they were accidentally good, so there will definitely be mention of misogyny, racism, anti-socialism, a very brief mention of spanking

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In today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss the multitude of responsibilities that are taken on by pastors wives in christian fundamentalism.

TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. In this episode we are talking about the gendered expectations placed on pastor’s wives, which naturally involves a lot of misogyny and sexism. There’s a brief section before the offering break where I’m going to talk about infertility and the pressure to have children, and I have it in my notes to give a heads up before we get into that.

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Today's episode is the 2nd part of a 2-part episode exploring and debunking the claims make by Mike Warnke in his 1972 book, "The Satan Seller." In this book, Warnke claims to have been a satanic high priest involved with the illuminati, and that he had satanic occult powers to summon demons and put spells on people. These claims launched Warnke's decades-long career as a christian speaker until he was proven to be a liar in the early 1990s by an article in Cornerstone Magazine. Join in as Sadie and Gavi explore the outlandish and absurd claims that Warnke made in his book.

TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. In this episode we are discussing the satanic panic and claims of satanic ritual abuse, as well as a lot of drug use, brief mentions of suicide (that was not completed) and domestic violence. Generally we will mention the names of the substances that Warnke said he was on, and the effects he says he experienced but we won’t describe his methods of use in any detail. There is also one point in the episode where we describe an alleged sexual assault. (We say alleged because it is the perpetrator claiming to have done it and there’s no other evidence that it ever happened, or that the victim was a real person who ever existed) and in that instance we will say that someone was sexually assaulted, but not give any details beyond that. There is also a small amount of general witchcraft spookiness, alleged blood drinking, we don’t believe it happened so we are not treating it as truthful, but it will come up.

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Today's episode is the first part of a 2-part episode exploring and debunking the claims make by Mike Warnke in his 1972 book, "The Satan Seller." In this book, Warnke claims to have been a satanic high priest involved with the illuminati, and that he had satanic occult powers to summon demons and put spells on people. These claims launched Warnke's decades-long career as a christian speaker until he was proven to be a liar in the early 1990s by an article in Cornerstone Magazine. Join in as Sadie and Gavi explore the outlandish and absurd claims that Warnke made in his book.

TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. In this episode we are discussing the satanic panic and claims of satanic ritual abuse, as well as a lot of drug use, brief mentions of suicide (that was not completed) and domestic violence. Generally we will mention the names of the substances that Warnke said he was on, and the effects he says he experienced but we won’t describe his methods of use in any detail. There is also one point in the episode where we describe an alleged sexual assault. (We say alleged because it is the perpetrator claiming to have done it and there’s no other evidence that it ever happened, or that the victim was a real person who ever existed) and in that instance we will say that someone was sexually assaulted, but not give any details beyond that. There is also a small amount of general witchcraft spookiness, alleged blood drinking, we don’t believe it happened so we are not treating it as truthful, but it will come up.

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On today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss Pastors School, the massive IFB pastors convention held at First Baptist Church of Hammond every spring. Sadie gives us the history of the event, some truly ludicrous Pastors School stories, the grueling schedule for the attendees, and one deeply inappropriate sermon she was made to listen to when she was a young teenager.

In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episodes we’ll mention at least a few of these topics, but we try very hard to avoid graphic detail unless it’s relevant to the story we’re telling, and we do our best to give the audience a heads-up before going into detail on any of these topics. In this episode we are discussing Pastor’s School, so we’re talking a lot about FBCH in particular, we’re talking about some of the most specific Fundamentalist teachings and the people who teach them, and we’re also going to be talking about some very weird grooming and sexual behavior perpetrated by a speaker at this pastor’s conference.

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On today's amazing crossover, Sadie and Gavi are joined by the reverend Jen of the YouTube channel Fundie Fridays to discuss Lori Alexander, AKA The Transformed Wife.

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