Mamamia Out Loud

The world is not made for me. The very melodramatic Substack that describes every short girl’s problems. So today, shorties Mia and Jessie are joined by taller girl Amelia Lester and Mamamia's even taller Deputy Editor Stacey Hicks, to figure out who’s got it worse.

Also, why do we need to be so efficient all the darn time?  Micro-efficiencies are the new craze and with their increase, it’s our chance to rest our decision-making brains. 

Plus, in this auditory medium, we present an optical illusion. Blame Jessie. If you'd like to see how high you are on the vision leaderboard, the illusions will be on our Instagram. 

And of course, recommendations: a trip to the cinema, a very fancy kitchen gadget, and a fascinating documentary.

Recommendations

Mia recommends The Ninja Slushi

Jessie recommends The Settlers  on ABC iview

Amelia recommends The Materialists  in cinemas

• What To Listen To Next: 

  • Listen to our latest episode: Should Your Family Divorce Your Ex Too?
  • Listen: The Sex Chat No Woman Wants To Have
  • Listen: WTF is Going On In America Right Now?
  • Listen: Please Remove Me From Your Micro Drama
  • Listen: BONUS: Our Honest Thoughts About 'And Just Like That' Season Three
  • Listen: You're A Bitch And That's Why We Lack Community
  • Listen: When Your Family Is the Problem
  • Parenting Out Loud: Dr Becky's DFK Theory & The Great Trampoline Debate
  • Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• The essential items every tall girl should own, according to Those Two Girls' Lise and Sarah.
• 'Men made dating difficult, not my height. I didn't let their judgement decide my worth.'
• Materialists is not a rom-com. Just a modern love story someone was bold enough to tell.
• These are the best TV shows of 2025 that you definitely haven't seen yet.

Are you fighting with someone you love? 

Maybe it’s your partner or your sibling or your best friend? 

Mamamia’s new therapy-based series is looking for a range of pairs who are interested in receiving qualified psychotherapy to help them repair their relationship before it’s too late. 

We are looking for real people, with real problems, who want real therapy. 

If this is you, apply here.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Sexuopharmaceuticals. Yes, we had to sound it out too. But behind the tongue-twister is a study that confirms what many couples already know: vaginal dryness + erectile dysfunction = not exactly a recipe for romance. But is that pill really the answer? We unpack the not-so-sexy science that says that sexuopharmaceuticals like Viagra are putting some men out of sync with their female partners. 

And, C-sections are on the rise—and Amelia, Jessie and Mia have thoughts. Is it a medical trend, a feminist power move, or just the new default setting for birth?

Plus, gossip alert: Jennifer Aniston’s rumoured new boyfriend has people talking, Bec Judd’s spilling the tea on her cosmetic tweaks, and Mia throws a surprise question at Jessie and Amelia that stops them in their tracks.

And finally, are we witnessing the slow death of university? Parents are being told to stop pushing uni on their kids but what does that mean for jobs, knowledge, expertise? We discuss.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: WTF is Going On In America Right Now?
• Listen: Please Remove Me From Your Micro Drama
• Listen: BONUS: Our Honest Thoughts About 'And Just Like That' Season Three
• Listen: You're A Bitch And That's Why We Lack Community
• Listen: When Your Family Is the Problem
• Listen: A Child Care Worker, An Arrest & The Backlash Against Male Educators
• Listen: The Leaderboard Of Cool
• Listen: The Bezos Wedding Was A Very Rich Text
• Parenting Out Loud: Dr Becky's DFK Theory & The Great Trampoline Debate
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Preparing for a C-section? These are the 5 things you'll want to plan for.
• DIARY OF A BIRTH: Eliza went in for a routine c-section. She felt everything.
• 'I gave birth via emergency c-section. A comment from my mother-in-law afterwards infuriated me.'
• 'I made over $800,000 last year. I still refuse to pay my daughter's university education.'
• ‘I’d been a cleaner, I’d driven trucks. At 43, I enrolled in university for the first time.'
• Viagra for women is a thing and nobody's talking about it.
• For a brief moment, the internet was convinced Barack Obama and Jennifer Aniston were having an affair.
• BEC JUDD: 'I posted about my neck. I woke up to my face plastered on a US magazine.'

Are you fighting with someone you love? 

Maybe it’s your partner or your sibling or your best friend? 

Mamamia’s new therapy-based series is looking for a range of pairs who are interested in receiving qualified psychotherapy to help them repair their relationship before it’s too late. 

We are looking for real people, with real problems, who want real therapy. 

If this is you, apply here.

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The information discussed in this podcast is general in nature and is provided for educational and informational purposes only. It does not constitute medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment, and should not be relied upon as such. Always seek the guidance of your doctor or qualified health professional with any questions you may have regarding your health or a medical condition. Never disregard professional advice or delay seeking it because of something you’ve heard in this podcast.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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In case you missed it, the US passed One Big Beautiful Bill on Friday. But what does it all mean — for Australia and the world? We need all the explanations. Fortunately, our US correspondent Amelia Lester joins Mia, Jessie and Em V to unpack Trump's latest 'feat'. 

And, our favourite astronaut Katy Perry has announced a new way to separate. Move over 'conscious uncoupling' because you've just been dethroned. 

Plus, Princess Treatment. What is it and what do women have to do to get it? Surprisingly, it takes more effort than you might think to achieve this most royal of treatments.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: BONUS: Our Honest Thoughts About 'And Just Like That' Season Three
• Listen: You're A Bitch And That's Why We Lack Community
• Listen: When Your Family Is the Problem
• Listen: A Child Care Worker, An Arrest & The Backlash Against Male Educators
• Listen: The Leaderboard Of Cool
• Listen: The Bezos Wedding Was A Very Rich Text
• Listen: Absolutely Everything Is Feminism’s Fault!
• Parenting Out Loud: Dr Becky's DFK Theory & The Great Trampoline Debate
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• An exhaustive timeline of Elon Musk and Donald Trump's possibly co-dependent situationship.
• Donald Trump's victory has forced us to confront a difficult truth.
• After months of speculation, Katy Perry and Orlando Bloom have shared a joint statement.
• Orlando Bloom's breakup posts are getting more cryptic by the day.
• Not every Disney Princess has to be a girl boss.

Are you fighting with someone you love? 

Maybe it’s your partner or your sibling or your best friend? 

Mamamia’s new therapy-based series is looking for a range of pairs who are interested in receiving qualified psychotherapy to help them repair their relationship before it’s too late. 

We are looking for real people, with real problems, who want real therapy. 

If this is you, apply here.

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Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Aidan's throwing rocks at windows (literally), Miranda's found love again, and Charlotte's trying to keep it together — we're halfway through And Just Like That Season 3 and we have SO many feelings.

In this bonus episode, we're serving up all our thoughts on the season so far. What's the deal with Carrie and Aidan's messy situationship? Is LTW about to cross a line with her hot editor? And why is everything suddenly going wrong for Seema?

Mia, Holly and Jessie are making predictions, dissecting character arcs, and getting way too invested in antique glass that casts rainbows. 

Friends, we've got theories. So many theories. 🍸

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: You're A Bitch And That's Why We Lack Community
• Listen: When Your Family Is the Problem
• Listen: A Child Care Worker, An Arrest & The Backlash Against Male Educators
• Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women
• Listen: We Need To Debrief On 'And Just Like That' Season Three, Ep One
• Listen: And Just Like That… Carrie Has Divided Us
• Listen: Our Uncensored Reactions To 'And Just Like That'
• Listen: And Just Like That… We Dried Up Like The Sahara
• Parenting Out Loud: Dr Becky's DFK Theory & The Great Trampoline Debate
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• 'Aidan from And Just Like That is suddenly... awful? I have a theory that explains why.'
• 'There's a reason even the Aidan 'Lick Ick' will not kill And Just Like That.'
• Every Sex and the City Easter egg hidden in season 3 of And Just Like That.
• The new season of And Just Like That feels wildly different, for one reason that will make you smile.
• And Just Like That is coming back, and a controversial character is missing.

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

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Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Ready for the weekend, Outlouders? We've got a fresh episode of Parenting Out Loud. Because if parents are thinking about it, we're talking about it.

On the show today, Jessie Stephens, Amelia Lester and Stacey Hicks join forces to chat all things including: 

👩 'I abandoned my family without warning. It was the best thing I ever did.' We dive into the article that went viral on site this week and we have lots of thoughts. 
🍼 Why more families than ever are wanting daughters over sons - what's behind this fascinating shift?
💚 Plus, do you have a DFK? Were you a DFK? And WTF is a DFK? Dr Becky's latest parenting trend explained.
🤸 And, are you in trampoline denial? 

Plus, in this week’s reccos:

📝 Amelia wants you to try Spirograph Drawing and Design Set
🧸 Jessie wants you to listen to the podcast Eat Sleep Repeat 
📚 Stacey wants you to make this recipe-less crowd favourite meal, just cook lamb mince with cumin, paprika and cinnamon in a fry pan. Throw some potato and zucchini in the air fryer (or oven) and a dollop of tzatziki to finish it all off.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Parenting Out Loud Ep 1: Grandparents — It's Time For Your Performance Review
• Parenting Out Loud Ep 2: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling
• Parenting Out Loud Ep 3: A New Co-Parenting Rule & The 100% Work Dilemma
• Parenting Out Loud Ep 4: The Ms Rachel Controversy & The Great Kids Vs Friendships Debate
• Mamamia Out Loud: "Too Rich" Celebrities & The Adolescence Theory
• Eat Sleep Repeat: I Don’t Want To Parent The Way I Was Parented
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

What to read: 

• 'I abandoned my family without warning. It was the best thing I ever did.'
• 'I didn't realise gender disappointment was a thing in pregnancy, until I admitted I had it.'
• What you should do if your child gets injured on the trampoline.
• "My adult child was suffering, but I had to step back for my own health.”
• There's one question we're all asking since watching Adolescence. An expert just answered it.

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GET IN TOUCH:

Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at [email protected] 

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Family to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamia_family

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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You're a bitch and that's why we lack community. A brutal essay has exposed how we've all become selfish in the name of self-care, and some of us are feeling a little bit attacked. Mia, Jessie and Em Vernem discuss the idea of the small favour economy and why asking your friend for a rise to the airport is more valuable than you realise.

Plus, is anyone else feeling increasingly tricked by artificial intelligence? You're not alone. We tell you the sneaky ways even real estate agents are using AI for marketing tactics. And Em Vernem shares her own hilarious experience of being fooled by AI.

Also, it's time to 'lock in' and 'crash out'. We explain the new vocab you're about to see everywhere.

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Recommendations

Mia recommends Ms Rachel on Youtube.

Jessie recommends American Manhunt: Osama Bin Laden on Netflix

Em recommends TBH skincare body spritz 

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: When Your Family Is The Problem
• Listen: A Child Care Worker, An Arrest & The Backlash Against Male Educators
• Listen: The Leaderboard Of Cool
• Listen: The Bezos Wedding Was A Very Rich Text
• Listen: Absolutely Everything Is Feminism’s Fault!
• Listen: An Inheritance Dilemma and A Surprise Third Baby
• Askers v Guessers: The Bully, The Mum & The Aftermath Of A Viral Video
• Parenting Out Loud: The Ms Rachel Controversy & The Great Kids Vs Friendships Debate
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• you’re a bitch, and that’s why we lack community
• Why Tot Celebrity Ms. Rachel Waded Into the Gaza Debate
• 'I was raised in a "guess family" then married into an "ask family". It blew my mind.'
• 'I applied for a rental home as a single parent. The agent's response crushed me.'
• How to save money while renting, but still have nice things.
• Flakiness is out of control at the moment.
• We all have 6 different types of friends in our lives. Which one are you?

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Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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The story you’ve seen everywhere today and the question it raises about childcare. 

Plus, the new radical era of celebrity surgery transparency. But, is this good or bad for the myriad of body standards we are already swimming in? 

And, the latest workplace test that's incredibly divisive and has Mia, Jessie and Em Vernem slightly sweating. 

Donate to the hard-working aid organisations on the ground in Gaza:

• Unicef
• Plan International
• The World Central Kitchen
• Doctors Without BordersInternational Red Cross

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Leaderboard Of Cool
• Listen: The Bezos Wedding Was A Very Rich Text
• Listen: Absolutely Everything Is Feminism’s Fault!
• Listen: An Inheritance Dilemma and A Surprise Third Baby
• Listen: How Do You Solve A Problem Like Brad Pitt?
• Listen: The 'Last Meeting' Theory Explains All Your Ex Relationships
• No Filter: "All The Exits Were Blocked" - How Charlotte Cowles Was Scammed
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

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What to read: 

• One man. Twenty childcare centres. A case that has left hundreds of parents reeling.
• The letter no parent wants to receive, yet 1200 did.
• It's not a coincidence celebs have started telling you about their plastic surgery.
• Kylie Jenner is done gatekeeping her plastic surgery details.
• The undetectable era of surgery is here. Kris Jenner just proved it.
• WAR IN GAZA: How to support civilians amid the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

Resources: 
If you have experienced sexual assault and are in need of support, help is available:

• 1800 RESPECT on 1800 737 732
• Redress Support Services on 1800 737 377
• Bravehearts on 1800 272 831
• Lifeline on 13 11 14
• PartnerSPEAK on (03) 9018 7872

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Support independent women's media 

Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com

Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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Between 27 dresses, 'something borrowed' from the Blue Origin space flight and Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez's 200+ closest friends, there's a BIG post wedding debrief needed. They weren't invited but that didn't stop Mia, Jessie and Em V giving full wedding guest vibes on the three-day Venetian extravaganza.

And, the Liberal Party is in a world of pain with plenty of suggestions on how to fix it. We weigh into the quota debate that's been raging for more than 30 years. 

Plus, dating apps are having a tough 2025, and no, people aren't more in love than they were in the past. So, where are the hopeful lovebirds placing their efforts? Em brings the peer-reviewed research we expect. 

Finally, the 'poop' cruise documentary that is Jessie's Roman Empire and Mia's worst nightmare.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Absolutely Everything Is Feminism’s Fault!
• Listen: An Inheritance Dilemma and A Surprise Third Baby
• Listen: How Do You Solve A Problem Like Brad Pitt?
• Listen: The 'Last Meeting' Theory Explains All Your Ex Relationships
• Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer
• Listen: "I'm Done With Being Interviewed By Women"
• Listen: The Breakup Text We Got This Week
• Parenting Out Loud: The Ms Rachel Controversy & The Great Kids Vs Friendships Debate
• The Quicky: The Death Of The Dating App & Why Is Everyone Obsessed With Cortisol?
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Is this the death of 'quiet luxury'?
• Lights, cameras, gondolas: What happened when the stars descended on Venice.
• A custom gown and a surprise venue change: The details from inside Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez’s wedding.
• When Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez started dating, they were both still legally married.
• This four-day cruise promised luxury. Then passengers found themselves on a ship of horrors.

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Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com.au

Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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What better way to start the weekend than with this episode of Parenting Out Loud? Because if parents are thinking about it, we're talking about it. 

On the show today, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester are joined by friend of the pod, and Mamamia's Deputy Editor, Stacey Hicks, to chat all things:

👩🏻 Ms Rachel: to what extent can we expect children's entertainers to be apolitical? The controversy about the beloved YouTube star continues.
☎️ The dumb phone: why families are reintroducing landlines and 'bricks' in pursuit of simpler technology.
💬 And, can having kids wreck adult friendships? 

Plus, in this week’s reccos:
📝 Amelia wants you to try a special storytelling collection.
🧸 Jessie recommends daycare with a twist.
📚 Stacey is all about Dolly Parton's Imagination Library.

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WHAT TO LISTEN TO NEXT: 

• Parenting Out Loud Ep 1: Grandparents — It's Time For Your Performance Review
• Parenting Out Loud Ep 2: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling
• Parenting Out Loud Ep 3: A New Co-Parenting Rule & The 100% Work Dilemma
• How to Build A Universe: From Media To Friends, How To Manage Your Child's External Influences
• This Glorious Mess: Why Your Obsession With Bluey Is Deeper Than You Think (Bonus)

WHAT TO READ: 

• Rachel Accurso's son struggled with a speech delay, so she started making videos online.
• ‘I was a total a**hole’. An open letter to the women who became mums before me.
• 'I didn't know how to keep my kids safe on their phones, until an expert shared these three hacks.'
• 'I'm a psychologist. This hidden phone setting kills your endless scrolling addiction.'
• Worried about what your kids see online? These 5 tips make digital parenting easier.
• 'I don't have a kid, but I told my workplace I do.'
• 'Why I refuse to use a smartphone.'
• 2006 called and it wants you to buy your kid a dumb phone.

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GET IN TOUCH:

Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at [email protected] 

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Family to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamia_family

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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The most inflammatory podcast of the year just dropped, and guess what? It looks like feminists have a lot to answer for. Mia, Jessie and Holly discuss the furore on today's show.

Also, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s recent outfits have started a conversation about ‘date night dressing’, and whether we should take a page out of their very fancy book. 

Plus, Jessie would like to make it clear that her puffy face is no one's business. The internet is OBSESSED with ‘lowering cortisol’, but do we all just need to touch some grass instead?

And our recommendations of the week, including a new season of Mia’s favourite Netflix documentary, Holly’s book of the week, and Jessie’s very exciting sister news.

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Recommendations

Mia recommends America's Sweethearts on Netflix

Jessie recommends The Worst Thing I've Ever Done by Clare Stephens

Holly recommends 100 Years of Betty by Debra Oswald

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: An Inheritance Dilemma and A Surprise Third Baby
• Listen: How Do You Solve A Problem Like Brad Pitt?
• Listen: The 'Last Meeting' Theory Explains All Your Ex Relationships
• Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer
• Listen: "I'm Done With Being Interviewed By Women"
• Listen: The Book Club Implosion & The Best Friend Comparison Spiral
• Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• 'This podcast framed itself as a debate on feminism. It was the opposite.'
• 'There was one Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders scene that made my jaw drop, but I don’t know why I was surprised.'
• The 12 words Travis Kelce said that divided Taylor Swift's fan base.
• Blake Lively tried to protect them. Now Taylor Swift's private text messages are being exposed.
• Do you have 'cortisol face' or is that just your face?
• 'I'm a sleep expert. Here are 6 things you can do for the best sleep of your life.'

Listen to Parenting Out Loud:

Parenting Out Loud: A New Co-Parenting Rule & The 100% Work Dilemma

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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