Mamamia Out Loud

The most inflammatory podcast of the year just dropped, and guess what? It looks like feminists have a lot to answer for. Mia, Jessie and Holly discuss the furore on today's show.

Also, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s recent outfits have started a conversation about ‘date night dressing’, and whether we should take a page out of their very fancy book. 

Plus, Jessie would like to make it clear that her puffy face is no one's business. The internet is OBSESSED with ‘lowering cortisol’, but do we all just need to touch some grass instead?

And our recommendations of the week, including a new season of Mia’s favourite Netflix documentary, Holly’s book of the week, and Jessie’s very exciting sister news.

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Recommendations

Mia recommends America's Sweethearts on Netflix

Jessie recommends The Worst Thing I've Ever Done by Clare Stephens

Holly recommends 100 Years of Betty by Debra Oswald

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: An Inheritance Dilemma and A Surprise Third Baby
• Listen: How Do You Solve A Problem Like Brad Pitt?
• Listen: The 'Last Meeting' Theory Explains All Your Ex Relationships
• Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer
• Listen: "I'm Done With Being Interviewed By Women"
• Listen: The Book Club Implosion & The Best Friend Comparison Spiral
• Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women

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What to read: 

• 'This podcast framed itself as a debate on feminism. It was the opposite.'
• 'There was one Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders scene that made my jaw drop, but I don’t know why I was surprised.'
• The 12 words Travis Kelce said that divided Taylor Swift's fan base.
• Blake Lively tried to protect them. Now Taylor Swift's private text messages are being exposed.
• Do you have 'cortisol face' or is that just your face?
• 'I'm a sleep expert. Here are 6 things you can do for the best sleep of your life.'

Listen to Parenting Out Loud:

Parenting Out Loud: A New Co-Parenting Rule & The 100% Work Dilemma

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

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Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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The most famous Hollywood face is everywhere you look. He’s on a super-charged comeback mission including a press junket, a podcast interview and a $300 million movie. But can you solve a problem like Brad Pitt? Mia, Jessie and Holly discuss on today's show. 

Also, are you a maximiser or a satisficer? There's a new fascinating personality comparison on why women are more likely to end marriages.

Plus, there's one woman who has had the internet in a chokehold this week. Except… she’s been dead for 25 years. Why is Carolyn Bessette Kennedy all over the place right now and why are so many people feeling furious about it?

Join the conversation by listening now. 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The 'Last Meeting' Theory Explains All Your Ex Relationships
• Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer
• Listen: "I'm Done With Being Interviewed By Women"
• Listen: The Book Club Implosion & The Best Friend Comparison Spiral
• Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women
• Listen: And Just Like That…Carrie Won’t Talk About Her Vagina
• Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
• Listen: Meghan Sussex, Emma Grede & The Rebrand of 'Hustle'
• Listen: The Books That Changed Our Lives
• Listen: Indy Clinton, A Private Investigator & The Anonymous Women Running Scared
• Listen to Parenting Out Loud: A New Co-Parenting Rule & The 100% Work Dilemma

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Everything you need to know about the US strikes on Iran.
• This Brad Pitt photo is hiding a dark story.
• 'Happy Father’s Day to this world-class a**hole.' Everything Brad Pitt's kids have said about him.
• We need to talk about the orca uprising.
• An aircraft that never landed: Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy, JFK Jr, and the Kennedy Curse.
• Who is Jack Schlossberg? JFK's only grandson the internet has become obsessed with.
• Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy became one of the most famous women in the world. She hated it.

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GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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Jameela Jamil is breaking up with women journalists via Substack. After too many burnouts and betrayals, the actress and activist is done. But is this really the group chat exit we think it is? Mia, Jessie and Holly have thoughts.

Plus, there's a mahoosive marriage taking place in Venice this week and friends, people are protesting. It's Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez whose nuptials are getting flack and their wedding extravaganza is everything you’d expect: 27 dresses, three days of events, multiple protests, and a juicy affair that started it all. We've got the full rundown — from the super yacht to the guest list.

Also on today’s show: you've heard of 'Let Them' and if you came to our live show, you might have heard our blunt alternative. But what about... 'Who says?' Who says you can’t wear that crop top? Who says those pants aren’t it? (Well, Mia... apparently. But ignore that.) This latest life theory might just be the one that changes everything — for the better.

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Book Club Implosion & The Best Friend Comparison Spiral
• Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women
• Listen: And Just Like That…Carrie Won’t Talk About Her Vagina
• Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
• Listen: Meghan Sussex, Emma Grede & The Rebrand of 'Hustle'
• Listen: The Books That Changed Our Lives
• Listen: Indy Clinton, A Private Investigator & The Anonymous Women Running Scared
• Listen to Parenting Out Loud: A New Co-Parenting Rule & The 100% Work Dilemma
• Listen to No Filter: Jameela Jamil Knows How To Take Down Andrew Tate
• Listen to The Quicky: What Happens Now The US Has Bombed Iran & Taylor’s Texts Go To Court

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Why you will never hear Jameela Jamil say 'men are trash'.
• 'Like Jameela Jamil, I was accused of faking my illnesses. It cost me almost everything.'
• 27 dresses, a $500M yacht and a city on strike: Jeff Bezos' wild wedding, unpacked.
• When Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sánchez started dating, they were both still legally married.
• ICYMI, it's the first girls-trip to space.
• 'Something doesn't seem right.' A theory about Katy Perry's tour and the relentless backlash.

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Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures. 

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Saturday treat time, Outlouders. A brand new episode of Parenting Out Loud just landed, and we’re dropping it here for you to enjoy too.

In this episode, Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester dive into:

💬 Co-parenting: Should parents—be they current partners or exes—need to hype each other up a bit more?
🧠 The Ellen Pompeo quote that made them rethink whether mums can ever give 100% at work
💄 And whether letting kids play with makeup is anti-feminist—or just innocent fun

Plus, in this week’s reccos:
📚 Amelia shares the magazine (yes, an actual paper one) that has her kids totally hooked.
🧠 Jessie’s found a smart way to take the edge off toddler tantrums.

Whatever you're doing this weekend, enjoy the conversation. 

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WHAT TO LISTEN TO NEXT: 

• Parenting Out Loud Ep 1: Grandparents — It's Time For Your Performance Review
• Parenting Out Loud Ep 2: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling
• The Lie Working Mothers Tell
• How To Build A Universe: Into The Jungle We Go
• Not To Be Rude, But WTF Is "Solo Dadding"?

WHAT TO READ: 

• 9 celeb parents on what it's like co-parenting with a famous ex.
• Victoria Beckham shared her makeup 'rules' for Harper. Here's what 7 mums had to say about theirs.
• Makeup at four, pierced ears at five: Parents share their ‘age rules’ for their kids.
• Kim Kardashian West has shared her two makeup rules for daughter North West and... what.
• "There will always be something left to do." What no one tells you about being a working mother.
• Ellen Pompeo is one of TV's best-paid actors. Here's what her life away from the spotlight looks like.
• 'Joshua Jackson spoke about the difficulty of co-parenting. I have feedback.'

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GET IN TOUCH:

Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at [email protected] 

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Family to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamia_family

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah Jessica Parker has spent decades as Carrie Bradshaw, but here’s the twist: she’s never actually watched herself do any of it. Not the sex, not the shopping, not even the typing. So is it the ultimate act of self-care, or just a lil bit lazy?

Plus, everyone’s talking about texting less—until they’re the ones left on read. We unpack the modern crisis of communication overload, from parenting to work to friendships, and why it’s never as simple as just putting your phone down. 

If you thought podcasts were just for your ears, think again. Vodcasts are taking over and we feel… conflicted about it. Are you sick of our faces yet? We certainly are.

And our recommendations, including a documentary on Jessie’s roman empire, Holly’s 1923 binge, and Mia’s new comfort TV show.

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Recommendations

Mia recommends Overcompensating on Prime Video and If I Could Be My Silhouette by Jacqui Oberg

Jessie recommends Titan: The OceanGate Submersible Disaster documentary on Netflix

Holly recommends 1923 on Paramount Plus

Listen to Parenting Out Loud

• Parenting Out Loud: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Ethical Flirting Rules & The Sister Who Just Won't Change
• Listen: The Lick Ick & The Patron Saint of Betrayed Women
• Listen: And Just Like That…Carrie Won’t Talk About Her Vagina
• Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
• Listen: Meghan Sussex, Emma Grede & The Rebrand of 'Hustle'
• Listen: The Books That Changed Our Lives
• Listen: Indy Clinton, A Private Investigator & The Anonymous Women Running Scared
• Listen: The Test Everyone In Hollywood Wants You To Do
• Listen: The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• When Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew Broderick first met, they were dating different people.
• MIA FREEDMAN: 'Was Carrie always a monster or did we just not notice?'
• 'I gave him my seat.' Christine Dawood on losing her husband and son on the Titanic sub.
• Father and son Jay and Sean were supposed to be on the Titanic sub. They pulled out last-minute.

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Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There's a standout star on Duchess Meghan’s latest long-form interview, but surprise... it's not Megs. Enter one Emma Grede: Skims co-founder, Shark Tank guest judge, and the new archetype of the modern girl boss. While Meghan’s business advice is a little on the fluffy side, Emma’s empire—from shapewear to podcasts to philanthropic pledges—has Mia exhausted.  

Meanwhile, Holly is bringing Etsy witches back with a dark update. What happens when your Etsy witch dies mid-spell? It happened and the buyer of this magical intervention isn't happy. 

Plus, someone returns from therapy with two anxiety hacks that might just change your life... or at least put your performance anxiety on hiatus for a while. 

And the debate about a debate: Why are South Australian high schools debating the legitimacy of 'Tradwives'? Jessie's extensive debate career (ages 13-16), has prepared her for this moment.  

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Books That Changed Our Lives
• Listen: Indy Clinton, A Private Investigator & The Anonymous Women Running Scared
• Listen: The Test Everyone In Hollywood Wants You To Do
• Listen: The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask
• Listen: Tampons, Tarot & The Rise Of Magical Thinking
• Listen: Bonnie Blue's Glass Box Stunt & Blake Lively's Vindication
• Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
• Listen: LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen
• Listen to Parenting Out Loud: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Emma Grede cold-called Kris Jenner with an idea. Now she's worth $600 million.
• Meet the real brains behind the success of every big Kardashian business.
• Tradwives, 'femcels' and dating strategists: Meet the women rejecting feminism.
• Meghan Markle's new era screams 'tradwife'. The truth is very different.
• The A-list actress who called out Meghan Markle has quietly deleted the evidence.
• HOLLY WAINWRIGHT: 'How you feel about Meghan's new "shop" tells me one thing about you.'
• Meghan Markle writes a letter every night. They won't be opened for years.
• After visiting Ballerina Farm, Megan knows what we don't understand about Hannah Neeleman.

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Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Questions from the weekend: What's an 11A? Why is America protesting kings? And what took Sir David Beckham so long? Mia, Jessie, and Em Vernem are here with the answers.

Plus, Sabrina Carpenter drops her new album cover—and the internet loses its mind. Is it DV glamour porn? Subversive satire? Or just a PR play we’ve seen before?

And, Aussie content creator Indy Clinton hired a private investigator to unmask her worst trolls. What she discovered was a rude awakening for anonymous haters. 

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What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Test Everyone In Hollywood Wants You To Do
• Listen: The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask
• Listen: Tampons, Tarot & The Rise Of Magical Thinking
• Listen: Bonnie Blue's Glass Box Stunt & Blake Lively's Vindication
• Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
• Listen: LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen
• Listen: A Famous Mother & A Treacherous Daughter
• Listen: Celebrities Are Spruiking Their Boob Jobs. Everyone Cool With That?
• Listen to Parenting Out Loud: The Death Of The Dining Table & 'Outdated' Schooling
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Indy Clinton was determined to unmask her trolls. She's just been handed a 64-page report.
• Leave Indy Clinton alone.
• Yes, this album cover is shocking, but that's the whole point.
• A very important history of David Beckham sooking about not being knighted.
• If you thought surviving the Air India crash was miraculous, wait until you hear the backstory.
• A moment for Hollywood's professional trolls.

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Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Outlouders, today we're introducing you to a new podcast we're releasing at Mamamia called I Never Told You This. Two People. One big reveal. A simple card deck with questions. Some are light-hearted, some deeper…and one that says ‘I Never Told You This’ - the chance for one person to share something they’ve never told the other before.

In the first episode of 'I Never Told You This', Mary and Martha Kalifatidis chat about their all-too-relatable experience of protectiveness and anxiety as parents. If you want to continue to enjoy this series, it will be dropping every Thursday over at the But Are You Happy podcast.

Head to Medibank to learn more about the Family Roast card game that sparked the conversation.

The experiences shared and views expressed are those of the people featured and do not reflect the views of Medibank. This is not health advice. If you or someone you know needs help, you should always consult a trusted health professional. For further support and guidance, visit Medibank Mental Health. Or, if in need of immediate support, call Lifeline on 13 11 14.

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Outlouders, the second episode of Parenting Out Loud has just dropped so we're adding it here as a little Saturday treat. You. Are. Welcome.

Join Jessie Stephens and Amelia Lester as they discuss:

• Is the family dinner really just a guilt trip with cutlery?
• If Kourtney Kardashian is on to something when she says school's outdated. 
• The model who makes money from encouraging women and girls to live a 'skinny' lifestyle. Different generation, different platform, same disturbing message.  

And in their reccos this week:

• Amelia's got a brilliantly grim podcast that both you and your kid will love.

• Jessie shares her sneaky hack to score all the toys—no meltdown required.

Come join the conversation. New eps drop Saturdays. No shoulder spit-ups required.

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WHAT TO LISTEN TO NEXT:

• Parenting Out Loud Ep 1: Grandparents — It's Time For Your Performance Review
• Undoing Toxic 90’s Diet Culture For The Next Generation
• A Declutter Expert's Top Hacks And Why Every Family Needs A 'Drop Zone'
• How To Build A Universe: Trains, Planes And Adventure Games!
• But Are You Happy: The Right Way To Say No To People You Love

WHAT TO READ:

• 'I'm an organisational expert, and the "drop zone" hack is all you need to beat clutter.'
• 'My house was full of clutter, until I learnt about the "reach" theory.'
• STEPH CLAIRE SMITH: 'Your whole family will love these 20-minute dinner recipes.'
• LYNDI COHEN: 'The simple recipe I recommend everyone makes for a family dinner.'
• "It sucks if you have carpet." 6 things no one told me about feeding a baby.

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Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Share your feedback! Send us a voice message or email us at [email protected] 

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Family to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamia_family

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It popped up in The White Lotus, has reached peak celebrity level in Hollywood with everyone from Taylor Swift to Jennifer Anniston a fan, and is the latest personality test we’re using to put ourselves neatly into boxes (because chaos is exhausting). Welcome to the resurgence of the Enneagram.

On today's episode, Jessie, Holly and friend of the pod, Claire Murphy discuss why, for some, it's just a numbers game, and for others, the Enneagram is a map by which to live. 

Plus, in recommendations: Murphy brings a spicy book series, Jessie’s all over (at last) a buzzy docuseries, and Holly’s been glued to a delicious new TV binge.

And in Best & Worst: a celeb’s viral video that's very Holly.com, a cursed algorithm that haunts our hosts, and a wholesome Saturday night family feast.

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Recommendations

Claire recommends The Kingdom of Lies by Stacia Stark.

Jessie recommends Drive To Survive on Netflix. 

Holly recommends Sirens on Netflix.

Listen to Parenting Out Loud

• Parenting Out Loud: Grandparents — It's Time For Your Performance Review

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The 36 Questions We All Need To Ask
• Listen: Tampons, Tarot & The Rise Of Magical Thinking
• Listen: Bonnie Blue's Glass Box Stunt & Blake Lively's Vindication
• Listen: Jessie & The Inside Scoop On The Project's Cancellation
• Listen: LITTLE TREAT: The Money Pushover & A Woman Named Karen
• Listen: A Famous Mother & A Treacherous Daughter
• Listen to Parenting Out Loud: Grandparents — It's Time for Your Performance Review
• Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts 

Watch Mamamia Out Loud:

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What to read: 

• Why everyone suddenly wants to know their Enneagram personality number.
• Meghan and Harry left the royal family for their kids. This is Archie and Lilibet's life now.
• Meghan Markle writes a letter every night. They won't be opened for years.
• 'I transformed my sad beige home with dopamine decor. This is how.'
• Who are 'Beige-fluencers'? And why do they want us to live such boring lives?
• "WHY IS EVERYTHING... BEIGE?" An honest recap of Kim Kardashian's renovated pantry.
• Are infrared saunas worth the hype? We asked a doctor to get the facts backed by science.

THE END BITS: 

Mamamia studios are styled with furniture from Fenton and Fenton 

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message.

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

CREDITS:

Hosts: Claire Murphy, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.