Mamamia Out Loud

Joe Biden’s latest health scare has sparked a reckoning—and it’s raising big questions about what happens when compassion clashes with a potential cover-up. 

Also, have we all forgotten something about Tom Cruise... AKA the Last Real Movie Star? We're here to remind you.

And in today’s group chat — the woman with heels in her tote, the couple not speaking at dinner, the Strava-obsessed show-off... Be honest. Which woman did you swear you’d never become? 

Put your best listening ears on because Mia, Jessie and Holly unpack all this—and a whole lot more—on today's show. 🍿

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Is OnlyFans Cheating?
• Listen: A Bro-Podcast Storm & All The Fashion Week Beef
• Listen: Celebrities Are Spruiking Their Boob Jobs. Everyone Cool With That?
• Listen: Divorce Gifts & Text-Snooping Partners: We Have Thoughts
• Listen: Um, Who Are You Calling A Narcissist?
• Listen: The Most Mocked Woman In The World
• Listen: What If Love Never Finds You? 

What to read:

• There's still an insatiable interest in Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman's divorce. This story proves it.
• Katie Holmes has never been able to say what happened to her. But we're starting to find out.
• Tom Cruise hadn't spoken about Nicole Kidman in over 20 years. He just made a rare comment about her.
• Tom Cruise finally found someone who wants to jump out of a plane with him. Romantically.
• The 4 stages of dating Tom Cruise.
• 'I've been using Ozempic for 5 months... and the haters were right.'
• Inside the growing trend of Ozempic 'microdosing'.

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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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Is it fair to want your significant other to 'light up with excitement when you get home'? A seemingly innocent statement from an Australian podcast has unleashed fierce debate online - Mia, Jessie and Holly unpack. 

Plus, Australian Fashion Week has just wrapped and gosh weren't the designs gorgeous. Just kidding, we have no idea what was actually showcased, but we can offer a detailed explanation on all the influencer drama from behind the scenes.

And finally, Taylor Swift has had a week from hell. Between receiving a subpoena, a possible friendship breakdown with Blake Lively and being dragged into a messy Hollywood court case, we're betting her publicist Tree Paine needs a day off.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Celebrities Are Spruiking Their Boob Jobs. Everyone Cool With That?
• Listen: Divorce Gifts & Text-Snooping Partners: We Have Thoughts
• Listen: Um, Who Are You Calling A Narcissist?
• Listen: The Most Mocked Woman In The World
• Listen: What If Love Never Finds You? 

What to read:

• Justin Baldoni claimed Blake Lively extorted Taylor Swift. A judge has just thrown out his letter.
• In the Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively and Taylor Swift case, someone is lying. Here's how we'll learn the truth.
• A fashion expert just shared the 15 wardrobe essentials everyone needs.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

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Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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A very famous woman has talked us through her boob job online, and... it’s spon con. Discount code and all. Is this really what we’re doing now?

Also on today's ep, tree huggers (including Holly), are going to love this one. 'Minge on a tree' is a new internet trend and WTF does that even mean?

Plus, a whistleblower’s memoir, a fix for your face and a very useful newsletter: it's recommendations.

And our Best & Worsts, including Mia’s missed deadlines, a very icky sexy guy, and Jessie's competitive TV meltdown.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Divorce Gifts & Text-Snooping Partners: We Have Thoughts
• Listen: Um, Who Are You Calling A Narcissist?
• Listen: The Most Mocked Woman In The World
• Listen: What If Love Never Finds You? 
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
• Listen: WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry & Nagi
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama

What to read:

• 'Stepford Skin' is why all your fave celebs look the same as they did 20 years ago.
• The big problem with plastic surgeons weighing in on what 'work' celebrities have had done.
• This 22-year-old shared her skincare method online. People were horrified.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

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Credits

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Internet has a new favourite insult: narcissist. But what does it actually mean—and if you’ve found yourself quietly Googling it… should you be worried? Mia, Jessie and Holly discuss on today's show.

Plus, it’s one of the biggest celebrity trials in years, and the headlines are already dark. What’s going down in court with P Diddy—and which A-listers might be sweating right now?

And, what's an acceptable level of hatred in marriage? One very impressive couple says it’s normal—and even healthy. We unpack the theory that suggests a modicum of dislike might just be the secret to lasting love.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Most Mocked Woman In The World
• Listen: What If Love Never Finds You? 
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
• Listen: WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry & Nagi
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
• Listen: Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress

What to read:

• 'I left my husband because he was a narcissist. 7 years later, I got a call from his new wife.'
• 8 signs you're talking to a conversational narcissist.
• 10 women on the moment they realised their mother was a narcissist.
• The complicated story of the Culkin brothers and their 'narcissistic' estranged dad.
• A witness has gone ‘missing’, and everything else that’s happened in the Diddy trial so far.
• There were whispers about which celebs could be named in Diddy's trial. Jurors have just been told.
• The headline Diddy wants you to miss today.
• At one of Diddy's first hip-hop events, nine people died. Backstage, even more horrors were unfolding.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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Yes, it only lasts for 24 hours but this year, Mother's Day brought a stark realisation with it: an etiquette guide for the day is way overdue. And on today's ep, Mia, Jessie and Holly happily provide one. 

Plus, subpoenas and spirals. Taylor Swift has been dragged into the Justin Baldoni v Blake Lively lawsuit, but what does that actually mean? Our hosts break down the legal drama and what's truly at stake.

Meanwhile, Justin Bieber's recent behaviour has fans worried. Is this what happens when fame finds you at 12, or is something else going on behind those worrying Instagram posts?

And Nick Cave's phone-smashing concert policy. We explore the bizarre reality of performers facing audiences who prefer to film themselves over experiencing the show itself.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Most Mocked Woman In The World
• Listen: What If Love Never Finds You? 
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
• Listen: WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry & Nagi
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
• Listen: Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress

What to read:

• Justin Bieber just told us exactly what’s going on with him. It’s made the speculation worse.
• The Hailey Bieber 'documentary' everyone’s talking about, and everything that happened since.
• Taylor Swift has been subpoenaed in the Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni case. Her response says it all.
• If you have a new mum in your life, Mother’s Day is hers.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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Outlouders, we have quite the little treat for your Sunday Special today. 

It’s been 18 months since Evelyn Jones burst onto our screens in Strife—fictional, yes, but her story couldn’t feel more real to the women who brought her to life.

In this special episode of No Filter, host Jessie Stephens— one of Strife's writers and an Executive Editor on Mamamia—is joined by Mia Freedman, Asher Keddie (who plays Evelyn) and Bruna Papandrea (Executive Producer) to reflect on Season 1 and to give us a sneak peek at what’s to come in Season 2.

Mia's memoir Work, Strife, Balance inspired the hit Binge series and together, these powerhouse creatives, open up about what it means to be a woman in the media and entertainment industry today—the competition, the comparisons, the fear of cancellation, and the constant balancing act between public and private life.

And of course, they talk about ambition: what it costs, why it matters, and how the world still struggles when women dare to want more.

Season 2 of Strife is streaming on Binge now.

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CREDITS:

Host: Jessie Stephens

Guest: Mia Freedman, Asher Keddie and Bruna Papandrea.

Executive Producer: Naima Brown

Senior Producer: Grace Rouvray

Audio Producer: Jacob Round

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There are some things that just shouldn't go up a vagina. And no, we’re not just talking deodorants and douches. OF COURSE WE’RE NOT. This particular No Fly Zone for lady gardens includes DJs and drummers. But what would you add and why? 

Plus, why and how has Katy Perry become the internet's favourite punching bag? Following her Blue Origin space flight fiasco and controversial tour launch, Mia, Jessie and Holly dive into the brutal world of pop star reinvention. 

And, it's our recommendations. The TV twist that had Holly crying, the show Outlouders have been begging us to cover, and the product that's turned Jessie into checks notes an unexpected wall enthusiast.

And our Best & Worst: some particularly fine acts of micropettiness, a tiny clothes conundrum and an eye-opening read.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: What If Love Never Finds You? 
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
• Listen: WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry & Nagi
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
• Listen: Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress
• Listen: The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer

Recommendations: 

Mia wants you to watch the Four Seasons on Netflix.

Jessie wants you to clean your walls with Selleys sugar soap cleaning wipes.

Holly wants you to watch The Last of Us, season 2.

Holly, Mia & Jessie want you to read A Year of Healing

Plus watch Season 2 of Strife 

What to read:

• 7 important details you might have missed in Katy Perry's Woman’s World music video.
• OPINION: The fatal flaw that's already derailed Katy Perry's relaunch.
• Why you've never really seen Beyonce's youngest kids until now.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

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Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Credits

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Holly Wainwright

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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The world’s true crime podcasters, novelists and documentary makers are all camped out in a small town in Victoria, transfixed by a woman called Erin Patterson. The 'mushroom murders' are all we can talk about.

Glennon Doyle can do hard things. But this week, the iconic writer was forced off one of the world’s biggest stages. Why?

Plus, welcome to the age of the 'quiet wedding proposal' — and why Jessie thinks the new trend might finally see Holly married off to her elderly boyfriend.  

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: WTF Just Happened? The Election, Prince Harry & Nagi
• Listen: Mia On The Met Gala 2025 – Fashion, Lore & Drama
• Listen: Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress
• Listen: The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer
• Listen: Meghan's Bedtime Routine Is A Lot
• Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer
• Listen: We're Fighting About Being Ugly

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What to read:

• Ian was the only survivor of the deadly mushroom lunch. This is what happened after he sat down.
• When doctors diagnosed Glennon Doyle with anorexia, she didn't believe them.
• Every single red carpet look from the 2025 Met Gala.
• A surprise pregnancy, an ongoing feud and all the moments you missed on The Met Gala red carpet.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

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Did something big happen on the weekend? Well, yes, you could say that.

Ah, but do you mean the historic election result that no-one saw coming? Prince Harry’s remarkably angry interview? Or, perhaps, the online food fight between Nagi Maehashi of Recipe Tin Eats fame and Brooke Bellamy of Brooki's Bakery?

SO. MUCH. TO. CHOOSE. FROM. 

Welcome, Outlouders to this packed Monday episode of Mamamia Out Loud where Mia, Jessie and Holly debrief on all the news (and yeah, scurrilous gossip), anyone could ever wish for.

PS. The supposed Brooklyn Beckham family rift is in there too. Just sayin'.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: Uh Oh. The Most Low Status Way To Dress
• Listen: The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer
• Listen: Meghan's Bedtime Routine Is A Lot
• Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer
• Listen: We're Fighting About Being Ugly
• Listen: What Supercommunicators Know That We Don't
• Listen: Sex Toys, Borrowing Money & A Dad's Group Chat Faux Pas

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

What to read:

• Ali France survived the unthinkable. Now, she’s taken Peter Dutton’s seat.
• We asked 1200 Mamamia readers about the May 3 election. This is what you told us.
• Meghan Markle's show exposes the royal family's big mistake.
• Meghan and Harry left the royal family for their kids. This is Archie and Lilibet's life now.
• Rebecca Loos claims she woke up smiling after a night with David Beckham. Then the truth dawned on her.
• In 4 words, RecipeTin Eats' Nagi just said what she really thinks about the Brooki feud.

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There’s a four-letter word taking over the internet — it rhymes with munt — and let’s just say it’s dividing the group chat. We’re diving in, side-eyes and all.

Then, has personal style officially left the building? Mia and Jessie are joined by Em Vernem to break down the four forces that have turned fashion into chaos.

Plus, our recommendations: the show you’ll binge in a day, the book every Outlouder needs to read, and the one thing guaranteed to scare the crap out of you.

And in Best & Worst: gut problems, coping with grief, and a weekend that took 'tradwife' to a whole new level.

What To Listen To Next: 

• Listen to our latest episode: The Question We're Finally Ready To Answer
• Listen: Meghan's Bedtime Routine Is A Lot
• Listen: Caroline Bessette-Kennedy: The Original Influencer
• Listen: We're Fighting About Being Ugly
• Listen: What Supercommunicators Know That We Don't
• Listen: Sex Toys, Borrowing Money & A Dad's Group Chat Faux Pas

Sign up to the Mamamia Out Loud Newsletter for all our recommendations and behind-the-scenes content in one place. 

Recommendations: 

Jessie wants you to watch Black Mirror season 7.

Em Vernem wants you to watch Sinners by Ryan Coogler.

Mia wants you to read He Would Never by Holly Wainwright. 

What to read:

• You might not want to ask your stylist for the latest hair trend.
• Oxford shirts are your new wardrobe essential. We found options from $25.
• 'The 3 pieces I'm buying to upgrade my style this year as a fashion editor.'
• 'I'm a fashion editor, and these are the 7 things I wore on repeat all year.'

GET IN TOUCH:

Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected]

Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message

Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show.

Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud

Credits

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Jessie Stephens & Em Vernem

Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine

Executive Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

Video Producer: Josh Green

Junior Content Producers: Coco & Tessa

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.