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Susan Guthrie welcomes Patrick Kilbane, J.D., CDFA®, partner at Ullman Wealth Partners and Director of the Divorce Advisory Group, to talk about one of the most overlooked but critical phases of divorce: what happens to your finances after the papers are signed.
Instead of stopping at the settlement, Patrick shows you how to step into your financial “2.0” with confidence. We talk about creating clarity around your monthly cashflow, setting up systems to cover everyday expenses, and simplifying your accounts so they’re easy to manage. Patrick also shares how to plan ahead during the divorce, not just after, so you negotiate with your future in mind.
You’ll hear practical strategies for rebuilding credit, organizing your retirement and investment accounts, making smart housing decisions, and avoiding costly mistakes that can derail your long-term security.
Patrick’s decades of experience as both an attorney and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst make this a must-listen for anyone ready to move beyond survival mode and build a strong, strategic financial foundation for the next chapter of life.
More About Our Special Guest, Patrick Kilbane, J.D., CDFA®: Pat is a Partner at the firm and serves as both a Wealth Advisor and General Counsel. He brings over a decade of experience helping clients coordinate and implement comprehensive wealth management strategies. In his legal role, he manages all legal matters for the firm and assists clients with navigating their own legal questions by connecting them to trusted resources.
Pat also leads our Divorce Advisory Group, where he supports high-net-worth clients before, during, and after the divorce process. Drawing on his extensive background in family law and his Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® (CDFA®) designation, Pat helps clients make informed, confident financial decisions at every stage of marital dissolution.
Before joining our firm, Pat built a successful legal career in matrimonial and family law, serving as a Shareholder at two respected statewide firms—GrayRobinson, P.A. and Rogers Towers, P.A.—in Jacksonville.
Pat is deeply involved in the Jacksonville community and has served on numerous civic and professional boards. He has received several gubernatorial appointments, including to the Jacksonville Aviation Authority—where he served as Chairman from 2017–2018 and again from 2020–2021—and to the 4th Judicial Circuit Judicial Nominating Commission, where he served as Chairman from 2017–2019. Most recently, he was appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis to the Jacksonville Port Authority in 2024 and to the Florida Elections Commission in 2025.
His leadership extends to the Jacksonville Bar Association, where he served on the Board of Governors and as President of its Young Lawyers Section. He is a graduate of Leadership Florida (Class XXXV) and currently serves as President of the Jacksonville Lawyers Chapter of the Federalist Society.
Pat previously served as President of the Board of Directors of the Notre Dame Alumni Club of Greater Jacksonville and as a member of the Foundation Board for St. Vincent’s Hospital. In 2017, he was appointed by Bishop Felipe Estévez to the Savings and Loan Board for the Diocese of St. Augustine. In 2020, he was elected to the Board of Trustees for Adrian College, which will honor him as its 2025 Distinguished Alumnus.
Pat earned his J.D. from the University of Notre Dame and holds a B.B.A. from Adrian College, where he graduated summa cum laude. He is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® and co-author of Move Forward Confidently: A Woman's Guide to Navigating the High-Net-Worth Divorce.
Website and Book
http://ullmannwealthpartners.com
Pat’s book: Move Forward Confidently: A Woman's Guide to Navigating the High-Net-Worth Divorce.
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SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years. Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com
Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!
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SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT:
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If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life!
That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order!
I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is.
So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life.
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During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong.
As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount.
Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today!
Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off!
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SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE!
If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at [email protected] for pricing and details!!!
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DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.
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Susan Guthrie welcomes Patrick Kilbane, J.D., CDFA®, partner at Ullman Wealth Partners and Director of the Divorce Advisory Group, to talk about one of the most overlooked but critical phases of divorce: what happens to your finances after the papers are signed.
Instead of stopping at the settlement, Patrick shows you how to step into your financial “2.0” with confidence. We talk about creating clarity around your monthly cashflow, setting up systems to cover everyday expenses, and simplifying your accounts so they’re easy to manage. Patrick also shares how to plan ahead during the divorce, not just after, so you negotiate with your future in mind.
You’ll hear practical strategies for rebuilding credit, organizing your retirement and investment accounts, making smart housing decisions, and avoiding costly mistakes that can derail your long-term security.
Patrick’s decades of experience as both an attorney and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst make this a must-listen for anyone ready to move beyond survival mode and build a strong, strategic financial foundation for the next chapter of life.
More About Our Special Guest, Patrick Kilbane, J.D., CDFA®: Pat is a Partner at the firm and serves as both a Wealth Advisor and General Counsel. He brings over a decade of experience helping clients coordinate and implement comprehensive wealth management strategies. In his legal role, he manages all legal matters for the firm and assists clients with navigating their own legal questions by connecting them to trusted resources.
Pat also leads our Divorce Advisory Group, where he supports high-net-worth clients before, during, and after the divorce process. Drawing on his extensive background in family law and his Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® (CDFA®) designation, Pat helps clients make informed, confident financial decisions at every stage of marital dissolution.
Before joining our firm, Pat built a successful legal career in matrimonial and family law, serving as a Shareholder at two respected statewide firms—GrayRobinson, P.A. and Rogers Towers, P.A.—in Jacksonville.
Pat is deeply involved in the Jacksonville community and has served on numerous civic and professional boards. He has received several gubernatorial appointments, including to the Jacksonville Aviation Authority—where he served as Chairman from 2017–2018 and again from 2020–2021—and to the 4th Judicial Circuit Judicial Nominating Commission, where he served as Chairman from 2017–2019. Most recently, he was appointed by Governor Ron DeSantis to the Jacksonville Port Authority in 2024 and to the Florida Elections Commission in 2025.
His leadership extends to the Jacksonville Bar Association, where he served on the Board of Governors and as President of its Young Lawyers Section. He is a graduate of Leadership Florida (Class XXXV) and currently serves as President of the Jacksonville Lawyers Chapter of the Federalist Society.
Pat previously served as President of the Board of Directors of the Notre Dame Alumni Club of Greater Jacksonville and as a member of the Foundation Board for St. Vincent’s Hospital. In 2017, he was appointed by Bishop Felipe Estévez to the Savings and Loan Board for the Diocese of St. Augustine. In 2020, he was elected to the Board of Trustees for Adrian College, which will honor him as its 2025 Distinguished Alumnus.
Pat earned his J.D. from the University of Notre Dame and holds a B.B.A. from Adrian College, where he graduated summa cum laude. He is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst® and co-author of Move Forward Confidently: A Woman's Guide to Navigating the High-Net-Worth Divorce.
Website and Book
http://ullmannwealthpartners.com
Pat’s book: Move Forward Confidently: A Woman's Guide to Navigating the High-Net-Worth Divorce.
=====================
Take the Most of Your Listening Experience:
If this episode resonates with you, be sure to:
Follow Us Online:
MEET OUR CREATOR AND HOST:
SUSAN GUTHRIE®, ESQ., the creator and host of The Divorce and Beyond® Podcast, has been nationally recognized as one of the top family law and divorce mediation attorneys in the country for more than 30 years. Susan is the Chair of the American Bar Association Section of Dispute Resolution and is a sought-after keynote speaker, business and practice consultant, coach and trainer. You can find out more about Susan and her services here: https://susaneguthrie.com
Divorce & Beyond is a Top 1% Overall and Top 100 Self-Help podcast designed to help you with all you need to know to navigate your divorce journey and most importantly, to thrive in your beautiful beyond!
*****************************************************************************
SPONSOR SPOTLIGHT:
HELLO FRESH
HelloFresh is now a proud sponsor of Divorce & Beyond!
If you’ve been thinking about cutting back on grocery bills, avoiding food waste, or just getting dinner on the table without the stress — this is your moment, because right now, HelloFresh is offering one free item in every box — for life!
That’s right — every single box you order includes a free item, forever. And just to give you a taste of what that looks like... I got pineapple upside-down cakes in my first order!
I originally discovered HelloFresh during the pandemic and fell in love with learning new recipes and expanding our dinner routine. I let it go for a while — hey, I live in Chicago with world-class restaurants on every corner — but with today’s rising costs, HelloFresh is back on my table, and I’m so glad it is.
So if you’re ready to save time, money, and dinner — go to divorceandbeyond.com/hellofresh and sign up today to grab that free item for life.
*****************
During difficult times, like divorce, wearing a symbol of hope or protection—such as a hamsa or an evil eye—can be a comforting reminder to keep the faith and stay strong.
As a special gift to my listeners, YUMIYU Jewelry is offering 20% off your purchase! Use the code "BEYOND" at checkout to claim your discount.
Explore their stunning collection at yumiyujewelry.com and find your perfect piece today!
Link: https://divorcebeyond.com/YUMIYU Code: “BEYOND” for 20% off!
*****************************************************************************
SPONSORSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE!
If you would like to sponsor the show and reach our large community of those going through and healing from divorce, please reach out to us at [email protected] for pricing and details!!!
*****************************************************************************
DISCLAIMER: THE COMMENTARY AND OPINIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS PODCAST ARE FOR INFORMATIONAL AND ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY AND NOT FOR THE PURPOSE OF PROVIDING LEGAL ADVICE. YOU SHOULD CONTACT AN ATTORNEY IN YOUR STATE TO OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE WITH RESPECT TO ANY PARTICULAR ISSUE OR PROBLEM.
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