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What if ancient wisdom from The Art of War could improve your modern leadership skills? Join us for a captivating conversation with James Gimian, co-author with Barry Boyce of  The Rules Of Victory: How To Transform Chaos and Conflict; Strategies from The Art of War, as we explore the interconnected whole and how it applies to setting objectives and understanding complex adaptive systems theory.

Discover the importance of being present and self-aware in leadership, as we discuss situational awareness, the challenges of self-assessment, and the need for emotional intelligence training. Learn from examples in the aerospace industry and even a Taylor Swift song as we delve into the difficulty of self-awareness. Additionally, we explore military conflict management techniques and their applicability beyond warfare, revealing the triad of view, practice, and action as a tool for effective leadership.

Finally, we discuss how shifting our view and leadership strategies can lead to success, by looking at the interconnected whole through emulation, not imitation. We examine the power of mindfulness, psychedelics, and narrative-based approaches, diving into how these practices have been used in the US military and beyond. Don't miss this insightful episode that will empower you to thrive in complexity and become a more effective leader.

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Are you ready to unlock the secrets of high-performing teams in sports? Join us as we dive into the captivating world of flow alongside our esteemed guest, world renowned ice hockey coach Digit Murphy. Discover how peak skill and flow states allow athletes to achieve incredible feats on the court, the ice, and even in the sky as fighter pilots.

Together with Digit, we dissect the astonishing recent success of the Florida Panthers in the NHL playoffs and uncover how their disruptive play and dynamic application of "Fast Transients" have pushed them into the spotlight. We also delve into the importance of resilience and understanding the concept of mismatches (surprise) in both sports and life, with Digit sharing her immense coaching experience to shed light on distributed leadership and team science.

Finally, we explore the unique perspectives offered by women athletes and the role of mental performance in sports, drawing parallels to the Florida Panthers' impressive run in the Stanley Cup playoffs. Don't miss out on this enlightening conversation with Digit Murphy as we investigate coaching, resilience, and the power of flow. 

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Charlie Protzman is an international business consultant, multiple Shingo Prize-winning author, speaker, trainer, leadership coach and Implementer in Lean Business Delivery systems. Charlie has over 36 years of experience in Materials and Operations Management and has saved his clients millions of dollars. 

Specialties include training and implementing Lean Thinking / CI for manufacturing, healthcare, government, and service industries. Charlie is particularly experienced working with all types of process variation in assembly processes and is an expert at baton zone (bumping) line balancing.

Charlie has participated in train the trainer for Scrum The Toyota Way, Agile, The Flow System, and advanced training for the Cynefin Framework.

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Viv Read of Complexability joins us from Brisbane, Australia! We talk about complexity, sensemaking, and co-creating value for clients and customers – even in times of crisis and upheaval!

Viv has extensive experience as a manager and consultant in systems change, stakeholder engagement, culture change, and strategy and innovation. Building on expertise developed in major workplace reform projects for organizations such as Lend Lease, Carlton United Breweries, Department of Employment.

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Erik Schön is an executive and strategist who has successfully developed and deployed strategy for over 20 years in small, medium and large organizations. From hacker, software researcher and system engineer to leader, executive and strategizer, Erik is leading global organisations in complex product and service development. He is the author of The Art of Strategy - Steps Towards Business Agility and The Art of Leadership - Purpose and Integrity for Sustainable Success in Turbulent Times, both published by Yokoso Press.

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The Art of Strategy: Steps Toward Business Agility
The Art of Leadership: Purpose and Integrity for Sustainable Success

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Aaron MacLean is a senior fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Previously, he was senior foreign policy advisor and legislative director to Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Aaron served on active duty as a U.S. Marine for seven years, deploying to Afghanistan as an infantry officer in 2009–2010. Following his time in the operating forces, he was assigned to the faculty of the U.S. Naval Academy, where he was the 2013 recipient of the Apgar Award for Excellence in Teaching. Aaron received a B.A. in philosophy and the history of math and science from St. John’s College, Annapolis, and an M.Phil. (Dist.) in medieval Arabic thought from the University of Oxford. He has been a Boren Scholar and a Marshall Scholar and lives in Virginia, where he was born.

Chapters  in this episode:

• Avoiding Knowledge of War is Dangerous
• Do Systems Incentivize War?
• To Be or To Do: Boyd's Challenge
• Is There a Better Way to Get Better?
• Boyd: People, Ideas, Things. Always in That Order!
• Ponch is an Aviator, and Culture is HUGE
• Accountability is Crucial to True Leadership
• Boyd is So Much More Than "OODA Loop"
• Quantico is a "Boyd School"
• Reducing Boyd is a Disadvantage
• Boyd Focused on Conflict, Which is Everywhere
• Studying Conflict Builds Better Leaders
• Team Training and Team Science in Healthcare
• Measuring What Matters
• A Thank You and a Gracious Invitation That Ponch and Mark Accept!

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Aaron MacLean
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School of War with Aaron MacLean (Apple Podcasts)
School of War with Aaron MacLean (Spotify)

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Dr. Dan Low is the Chief Medical Officer of AdaptX and an expert in clinical systems improvement. Dr. Low has been in the field for more than 20 years and has published numerous research papers on patient safety, human factors, lean methodology, and medical technology. He has been invited to lecture on clinical transformation, physician engagement, continuous clinical improvement, and the use of real-world data to improve patient outcomes both in the United States and abroad. 

 Dr. Low is also a practicing anesthesiologist at Seattle Children’s Hospital and an Associate Professor of Anesthesiology at the University of Washington. In addition to his clinical expertise, he has been consulted on non-healthcare safety and team performance issues, such as improving U.S. Navy operations and commercial aviation teamwork.

Dr. Low is the co-founder of AdaptX, a Seattle-based startup that seeks to improve patient care with better insights from healthcare data. The company recently raised an additional $6 million in a Series A funding round led by Vulcan Capital and has raised a total of more than $11 million in funding.

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Gary Klein, PhD is an internationally renowned expert in decision-making, creativity, and leadership. He is a research psychologist, most famous for pioneering the field of Naturalistic Decision Making (NDM), along with his groundbreaking recognition primed decision (RPD) model, which has been used to revolutionize the way the Marines and Army train their officers. Dr. Klein has written several books, articles, and chapters about these topics, such as Sources of Power: How People Make Decisions, The Power of Intuition: How to Use Your Gut Feelings to Make Better Decisions at Work, and his most recent book, Snapshots of the Mind. He is the founder and CEO of Klein Associates, a consulting firm that specializes in decision-making, creative problem solving, and leadership development. Dr. Klein is a much sought-after keynote speaker and workshop facilitator, and has also developed the widely-used Learning-Focused Leadership model. His work has been honored with awards from the American Psychological Association, the Society for Industrial and Organizational Psychology, and the International Society for Performance Improvement.

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Gary Klein, PhD
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Snapshots of the Mind
Linking Expertise and Naturalistic Decision Making
Red Team Handbook

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Chet Richards is a retired Air Force Colonel, an independent consultant, and an author. He graduated from the University of Mississippi, where he also earned a PhD in mathematics. He served as an intelligence officer in the Air Force and as a strategy consultant and Lean theoretician.  Chet is a certified yoga instructor and holds a  Registered Yoga Teacher (RYT-500) certification with the Yoga Alliance. 

Colonel Richards is a colleague of the late American strategist John R. Boyd and is a gadfly-at-large for Boyd's ideas today. He has researched into the foundations of Boyd's strategy and has written "Certain to Win: The Strategy of John Boyd Applied to Business" and "If We Can Keep It" (on national security policy). He has a blog at slightlyeastofnew.com, which also has latest edits of Boyd's papers and presentations.

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Certain to Win
Antifragile
Being You 

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Chris Butler is a renowned product manager, writer, and speaker, with over 20 years of expertise in Agile methodologies, product management, and complex problem-solving. He has been a product leader at Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Cognizant, KAYAK, and Waze and has created techniques like Empathy Mapping for the Machine, Animistic Design Mapping, and Confusion Mapping to create cross-team alignment while building AI products. He is currently a Lead Product Manager at Google's Core Machine Learning team. Chris is an avid speaker and writer and regularly shares his knowledge and insights through talks, articles, and workshops.

Chapters found in this episode:

• Product Managers as Decision Facilitators 
• Why Alignment is Costly 
• Product Strategy, Org Charts and Agile 
• Product Playbooks? 
• A Discourse on Product Management 
• The Power of Narrative 
• Provo-typing? 
• The BS or Term Paper Economy 

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Chris Butler on LinkedIn
Chris Butler on Medium
Product School 

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