On this insightful episode of the “NASM-CPT Podcast,” host, and NASM Master Instructor, Rick Richey, tackles a nuanced listener question from Ellie about the financial realities of going independent as a personal trainer. Rick dives into the classic advice that many entrepreneurs should expect to reinvest their profits for the first three to five years and puts this into perspective for trainers considering going out on their own versus opening a brick-and-mortar facility.

He breaks down what it actually costs to work independently, and why it usually doesn’t take years to “pay yourself back”—unlike running a physical gym, which often requires a significant upfront investment and years of profit reinvestment. Rick also sheds light on important yet often confusing tax responsibilities for self-employed trainers, gives practical advice on setting aside money for business expenses and retirement, and shares stories from his own experience growing multiple gyms in New York City.

With relatable anecdotes—like his wife asking, “When do we get to keep the money?”—and actionable tips (hint: get a business credit card just for work expenses), Rick makes the numbers approachable. He also details the pros and cons, both financial and lifestyle-wise, of working for yourself versus for someone else.

If you’re considering taking the leap into independent training or even opening your own facility, this episode is packed with real-world financial advice, hard truths, and encouragement for trainers at every stage of entrepreneurship.

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