Mari sits back down with her husband Greg for their first real conversation since welcoming baby Cai, and they don't hold back. This is Part 1 of a two-part episode and it covers everything they've been quietly navigating over the last four and a half months.

They talk about what it actually looks like when two entrepreneurs have a baby. The identity shifts, the separate journeys, the roles that don't come with a manual. Mari opens up about struggling to show up online when she doesn't fully know who she is right now, the pressure she feels from online narratives about what a "good" dad looks like, and how motherhood has completely rewritten how she shows up for herself and her friendships. Greg gets honest about picking up his personal brand while Mari slowed down, his longtime insecurity around reading, and how becoming a dad pushed him to finally commit to books and why it's changing everything.

They also get into: navigating colic, baby gadgets that actually helped, why they're both figuring this out in real time, and the philosophy book Mari is currently reading that's making her rethink people-pleasing, trauma, and forgiveness.

Raw, real, and genuinely funny, this is the conversation you didn't know you needed.

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