Many parents will know the struggle of getting children off devices. But Rachel Clare has some great ideas.

Many parents will know the struggle of getting children off devices. But Rachel Clare has some great ideas. She's the author of Play Wild: Nature Craft Projects for Tamariki. It's a how-to guide for getting kids into nature and encouraging their creativity.

As Rachel points out in the book, you don't have to have your own garden to be able to do them - nature is everywhere, and so are the materials.

Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details