Be Well Sis: The Podcast

Pleasure as Power with Hannah Eko


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In this nourishing conversation, we sit down with author and creator Hannah Eko to explore what it means to choose bliss in a world that glorifies burnout.

Drawing from her book Honey Is the Knife, Hannah unpacks how Black women can transform wounds into wisdom and reclaim pleasure as both a birthright and a spiritual practice. Together, they explore the beauty of softness as protection, and how embracing joy can be a radical, healing act.

If you’ve ever felt guilty for wanting ease or joy, this episode is your permission slip to rest, feel, and return to yourself.

In this episode we discuss:

  • Why choosing bliss is not escapism, but a form of resistance and liberation
  • The importance of curating environments that allow Black women to stay soft and whole
  • Hannah’s journey from self-sacrifice to self-honoring — and what being a “punk spiritualist” really means
  • How pleasure connects us to our ancestors and offers a pathway to healing generational pain
  • Reframing wellness: moving beyond constant self-improvement toward true self-acceptance


Connect with Hannah:

Website: hannaheko.com

Instagram: @hannah.eko

Substack: hannahekwrites.substack.com


Connect with Be Well, Sis:

Instagram – @bewellsis_podcast

Substack – bewellsis.substack.com

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Be Well, Sis is hosted by Dr Cassandre Dunbar. The show is edited, mixed and produced by Megan Hayward. Our Production Manager is Kathleen Speckert.

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