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John Collison and Dwarkesh Patel sit down with Elon Musk to discuss why the future of AI isn’t on Earth, but in the "always sunny" vacuum of space. Between pints, they discuss the brutal physics of scaling—from the "farcically cheap" solar cells coming out of China to switching Starship from carbon fiber to stainless steel—as well as the “infinite money glitch” of humanoid robots, China, and DOGE.
Timestamps
00:00:23 Space GPUs
00:35:39 Alignment
00:58:48 xAI
01:15:01 Optimus
01:28:03 China
01:40:46 Management
02:16:38 DOGE
02:34:58 Space GPUs redux
Remember when Facebook was fun and Google actually worked? Cory Doctorow coined a term for what went wrong, and he's here to explain how we fight back.
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This week, Jonathan Haidt, author of “The Anxious Generation,” returns to the show to discuss new research about how social media is harming teens and what it’s been like to become the face of a global movement against the platforms. Then, we asked what you were building with Claude Code, and you blew us away. We’ll share some of our favorite projects that you sent us. And finally, we’re joined by PJ Vogt, the host of “Search Engine,” to talk about our early adventures in the Forkiverse and what we’ve learned so far about running a social media network.
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(0:00) Friedberg intros FDA Commissioner Marty Makary
(3:21) Inside the 42 major FDA reforms in 10 months
(7:51) The China Race: Winning back biotech leadership
(13:14) Accelerating drug approvals safely, how to cut down on clinical trial timelines
(33:13) Reshaping the failed Food Pyramid
(41:29) GLP-1s and America's Obesity Epidemic
(49:54) Rethinking vaccines from first principles
(59:40) Lowering drug prices, the power of AI for healthcare
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