Delanie Fischer is joined by Michelle “MACE” Curran—former fighter pilot, combat veteran, and the second woman in history to fly lead solo for the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds—to share lessons from a demanding, high-stakes career. They discuss tactics for managing fear and self-doubt, navigating pivots and reinvention, and the importance of following your evolving excitement and sense of adventure.

Plus:

+ A Breakdown of G-Force, G-Lock, and Going Supersonic 

+ The Treasure Chest Tip: Turning Missteps into Momentum

+ The Life Lesson Behind Call Signs (and How MACE Got Hers)

Mace's book, The Flipside: https://macecurran.com/flipside/

Self-Helpless on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/selfhelpless

Your Host, Delanie Fischer: https://www.delaniefischer.com

EPISODES RELATED TO THIS TOPIC:

15 Tips For Managing Stage Fright In Work And Life with Em Schulz and Delanie Fischer: https://www.delaniefischer.com/selfhelplesspodcast/episode/21e3bc9e/15-tips-for-managing-stage-fright-in-work-and-life-with-em-schulz-and-delanie-fischer

When Your Dream Job Ends with Sam Fischer: https://www.delaniefischer.com/selfhelplesspodcast/episode/23660c46/when-your-dream-job-ends-with-sam-fischer

“You’re So Sensitive”: Understanding Everyday Microaggressions, Implicit Bias, and Best Practices with Billie Lee & Dr. Gina Torino: https://www.delaniefischer.com/selfhelplesspodcast/episode/2396d366/youre-so-sensitive-understanding-everyday-microaggressions-implicit-bias-and-best-practices-with-billie-lee-and-dr-gina-torino

Defiant Dreams with Sola Mahfouz and Malaina Kapoor: https://www.delaniefischer.com/selfhelplesspodcast/episode/226e5e22/defiant-dreams-with-sola-mahfouz-and-malaina-kapoor

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